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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:04 am
by Crabcakes
Given they’ll do this mass data sell-off to their own people, it’s all the more terrifying (and obvious) that they’d delight in doing it to the rest of us via the NHS, social security etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... e-blue-app

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Crabcakes wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:58 am


Far be it from me to suggest that it’s not just common or garden shithousery, but isn’t it remarkable how that particular list of MPs is really diverse in terms of ethnicity and gender?

I wonder if there’s another meaning of ‘not conservative enough’ they’re hinting at? :roll:
Yeah, Bim Afolami and Laura Trott and Bim Afolami have made it on the list.

This sounds very much like proper rightwing think tank conservatism to me.
Trott co-wrote a policy paper advocating for the establishment of "accelerator zones" with fellow Conservative MP Bim Afolami in February 2021 for the think tank Social Market Foundation. The zones would have relaxation of visa rules, tax incentives, and policy fellowship programme

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:03 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:43 pm No surprise that Alicia Kearns and Caroline Noakes are on this list. I'm sure getting rid of the remaining presentable MPs is going to help.

Comment from Bill Bonkers. No idea what a socialist is in these people’s minds and don’t want to.
And… why only 10 for de-selection? There’s probably closer to 200 socialists in blue rosettes who should be defenestrated.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha ha ha.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:25 pm
by Youngian
Do Express readers know what soft power is or care if they do?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:53 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Breaking story
William Wragg, MP for Hazel Grove, vice-chair of the 1922 committee has admitted that he was blackmailed (due to content on Grindr) to reveal the personal mobile numbers of other MPs to the blackmailer.

Wow.

I look forward to the details of this one...

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:58 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I can't even work out what some of the things in that ad there are supposed to represent. Why is there a tv cameraman?! What are those two big ships?

Some of the biggest moaners about Britain are Sunak's own MPs.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha ha. This bozo is always worth a laugh.

Were all the others who resigned or called for Johnson and Truss to go blackmailed?


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:25 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is enormous. Party with no chance in an election aren't really bothering.

Does Clarke not remember the free run he had from the Brexit Party in 2019? Or that his party brought in FPTP for regional mayors which makes this stuff much more likely?


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:54 pm
by kreuzberger
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:10 pm Ha ha ha ha.

Chuck will be less than delighted at being co-opted by the party which bullshat his mother and was getting leathered on the night before his father's funeral.

Does he have the balls to call this out?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:08 pm
by Oboogie
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:01 pm I can't even work out what some of the things in that ad there are supposed to represent. Why is there a tv cameraman?! What are those two big ships?

Some of the biggest moaners about Britain are Sunak's own MPs.
I guess the two ships represent either our marvellous post-Brexit trade, or Freeports. Possibly both. The TV cameraman is a mystery as I can't see a GBNews logo on it.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yep.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:09 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:37 am
by Andy McDandy
With the graphic (which reminded me of the cover of Littlejohn's Britain), the cameraman is Christopher Nolan. He of dual US/UK nationality. So, bit like Sunak.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:59 am
by Abernathy
That stuff about Mrs Sunak getting itchy feet and wanting the election done so they can fuck off to sunny California does seem eminently plausible.

Wish he'd hurry up and take her advice.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:40 am
by Crabcakes
I’m increasingly suspicious that all this “it’ll be May” “it’ll definitely be October” “no, it’ll be Summer” absurdity is in fact Sunak’s last roll of the dice - deliberately leaking/suggesting different dates to keep his party in check so no one makes a move on him as they don’t know what’s coming when, and laughably trying to ‘surprise’ the other parties/the electorate in the hope this magically translates into a less awful result for them?

Edit: although I suppose as it’s indistinguishable from rank incompetence/dithering, we may never know!

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:29 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Hanlon's Razor:
Never ascribe to malice that which may more easily explained by stupidity.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:42 pm
by Bones McCoy
William Wragg: Jeremy Hunt praises MP's apology over dating app incident

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68740332

Is 2024 the year of "apologised, let's move on".
It seems to be good for Hester, the IDF and now Wragg.

Let's see whether the same get out applies when it isn't one of theirs.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:04 pm
by Crabcakes
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:29 pm Hanlon's Razor:
Never ascribe to malice that which may more easily explained by stupidity.
True. Though in this case it could be both deliberate *and* down to stupidity (in the sense it’s an utterly terrible ‘plan’).