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Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:53 pm
by Bones McCoy
30p's comforting words:
Chin up lass.
Can't have helped.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:59 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Bones McCoy wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:53 pm 30p's comforting words:
Chin up lass.
Can't have helped.
Cruel.

But funny...

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:25 pm
by satnav
There don't seem to be many Tory MPs rushing out to speak up for Braverman IDS and Rees-Mogg have spoken up for her but they are both has beens. Andrea Jenkyns has backed her but I'm not really sure that this is a positive thing. Most other MPs are being really quiet. Channel 5 were so desperate to find a backer for Braverman that they had to interview Anne Widdecombe who is no longer a member of the Tory Party.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:52 pm
by Abernathy
Rees-Mogg has just been on Newsnight opining that he thinks it was wrong to sack Braverman (<spits>). Even if she did use “infelicitous” language.

Man’s a cunt.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:03 am
by Youngian
Even if she did use “infelicitous” language.
Man’s a cunt.

Like Russell Brand but even more creepy.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:32 pm
by Bones McCoy
Today Suella wakes up to discover there's been no massive revolt.
Her name barely appears on a front page.
Her social media loyalists are maginalised.
All the interest's on Cameron and Cleverley.

She isn't the martyr that reset the party.
She was just a bit of disposable reactor shielding.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:39 pm
by davidjay
Bones McCoy wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:32 pm Today Suella wakes up to discover there's been no massive revolt.
Her name barely appears on a front page.
Her social media loyalists are maginalised.
All the interest's on Cameron and Cleverley.

She isn't the martyr that reset the party.
She was just a bit of disposable reactor shielding.
Yet again a member of a 'disadvantaged' group is used to show that the Tories are the true party of inclusivity. Yet again they're dumped once their usefulness is outlived.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:43 pm
by kreuzberger
I'm no zoologist, but I am pretty certain that leopards eat other leopards' faces, too.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:30 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
She could, legitimately, point out that Sunak leaned into "Palestinians threatening the Cenotaph" stuff himself, so shouldn't he resign too? She probably won't.

Sounds like she's going to publish an open letter (Sunak isn't publishsing the exchange they've had).


Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:50 pm
by Youngian
Bones McCoy wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:32 pm Today Suella wakes up to discover there's been no massive revolt.
Her name barely appears on a front page.
Her social media loyalists are maginalised.
All the interest's on Cameron and Cleverley.
Monday morning’s a long time in politics. Whatever time Swellin drops her explosive letter it’ll be just another day. For once, well played Rishi, for now.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:13 pm
by mattomac
I noticed her arsehole Jendrick survived,

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:29 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:42 pm
by Crabcakes
I suspect Braverman’s resignation letter will be frothing nonsense and probably do her more harm than good.

Wonder if she might defect to one of the full-on nutter parties and take some loons with her. May as well - a lot of them will be out of a job shortly anyway.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
No point in her doing that. She should win her seat- all very safe round there.

Of the others, a list of the Common Sense Group here. Mixture of people who might as well give up now and very safe seats. So I'd expect very few defections. There were only 2 defections to UKIP during the Coalition, after all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_Group

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Here it is.


Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:53 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It's gratuitously unpleasant. And apparently she thinks laws don't apply if you put "notwithstanding" in front of them. And trans people.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:03 pm
by satnav
The letter would have had a lot more credibility if she had sent it last week and resigned on principle. Sending such a letter after you've been sacked just looks like sour grapes.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:16 pm
by Andy McDandy
Show me where in either the 2016 Leave literature or the 2019 Conservative manifesto it said "stop the boats". No you can't. She's a fucking liar.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:21 pm
by Abernathy
It’s pretty brutal, though, is it not? Accuses Sunak of bad faith, lies, and broken promises, and reveals that Sunak only put her back in the Home Office basically because she was blackmailing him into going full nutjob.

It’s dripping bitter bile, but it can be propaganda manna from heaven for Labour, if we get the pitch right. PMQs tomorrow should be half an hour of fun.

In the meantime, let the Tory civil war continue apace.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:22 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
On the PM programme Chris Mason, the BBC’s political editor, says he has asked Braverman’s team if he can see the document she writes about setting out the conditions he agreed to when she promised to support him. Mason says he was told that was “not for today” – implying she is planning to release it in due course.
She might be talking bollocks, but I'd like to see Sunak put on the spot about this.