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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:25 pm
by satnav
The thing is that there are lots of old hotels like the Grand up and down the country and they are never going to make any money. I stayed in the Palace hotel in Buxton a few years ago and it was bloody awful. The rooms are quite big and expensive to heat and keep clean. About the only thing it had going for it was a big swimming pool but that had been badly neglected.The whole place just needed knocking down and replacing with a eco friendly modern hotel.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:47 pm
by Watchman
Almost double the original figure.
Michelle Donelan used £34,000 of taxpayer funds to cover libel costs
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... SApp_Other
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Have we had the legal fees of the person she libelled yet? I assume we paid for those too.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:09 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
£23k I believe.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:10 am
by Crabcakes
Latest YouGov poll has Labour 26 points clear on 45%, and the Tories on 19%.
These are starting to not be outliers. I think Sunak gambling on waiting has backfired and people who they might just about have hung on to are now inclined to be voting against them because they’re sick of it being dragged out. Plus reform are doing well enough they won’t pull a bait and switch because they can sniff a full-on takeover in the offing. He’s put himself in worst possible scenario territory - a generational wipeout.
Which is, of course, richly deserved and absolutely to be enjoyed come election day.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:00 am
by Andy McDandy
The Mail - the fucking Mail - is today running an article by Starmer saying he's a safe pair of hands defence-wise. Labour trusted more than the Tories on defence now. Mail getting approving (for context, in 1997 only the Mail and Telegraph held out in support for the Tories). Fucking ouch.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:10 am
by davidjay
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:00 am
The Mail - the fucking Mail - is today running an article by Starmer saying he's a safe pair of hands defence-wise. Labour trusted more than the Tories on defence now. Mail getting approving (for context, in 1997 only the Mail and Telegraph held out in support for the Tories). Fucking ouch.
That'll go down well with the cult.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:32 am
by Bones McCoy
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:00 am
The Mail - the fucking Mail - is today running an article by Starmer saying he's a safe pair of hands defence-wise. Labour trusted more than the Tories on defence now. Mail getting approving (for context, in 1997 only the Mail and Telegraph held out in support for the Tories). Fucking ouch.
Andrew Peirce rushed to clinic suffering suspected "fit of the vapours".
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:53 am
by Oboogie
davidjay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:10 am
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:00 am
The Mail - the fucking Mail - is today running an article by Starmer saying he's a safe pair of hands defence-wise. Labour trusted more than the Tories on defence now. Mail getting approving (for context, in 1997 only the Mail and Telegraph held out in support for the Tories). Fucking ouch.
That'll go down well with the cult.
Yep, that's the proof they were waiting for, Starmer's a Zionist Nazi NATO puppet.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It isn't going down well with some. Saying you support the nuclear deterrent and might use it (clue is in the name deterrent) is apparently the same thing as saying you want to kill millions. The Jez policy of renewing Trident purely as a Keynsian job creation scheme for Unite members is of course much more sensible. And have these people not noticed what Trump is saying?
As it happens, the policy on raising spending "when we can" is basically meaningless anyway. But you have to say it because the other side say it, and there's no point letting them beat you on Defence just with talk.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:13 pm
What do you get if cross Fidel Castro with Rocco Forte? No not Len McCluskey but the Tory mayoral candidate for North Yorkshire
I stayed in that hotel a while ago. It was pretty basic but I liked it for its history and massiveness. I was also paying not very much to stay there. I'm not an expert on the hotel trade, but "government corporation to bring back upmarket tourism to Scarborough" looks like a money pit wairting to happen.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:37 pm
by Rosvanian
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:00 am
The Mail - the fucking Mail - is today running an article by Starmer saying he's a safe pair of hands defence-wise. Labour trusted more than the Tories on defence now. Mail getting approving (for context, in 1997 only the Mail and Telegraph held out in support for the Tories). Fucking ouch.
I'm prepared to put up with most things to get Labour back in to power but talking to the Mail or any of the filthy right wing press is crossing a red line as far as I'm concerned. A fucking disgrace.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:47 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
All goals count.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:34 pm
by Youngian
The Mail - the fucking Mail - is today running an article by Starmer saying he's a safe pair of hands defence-wise.
Unlike blackmailed MPs who post dick pics on Gindr.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:10 am
Latest YouGov poll has Labour 26 points clear on 45%, and the Tories on 19%.
These are starting to not be outliers. I think Sunak gambling on waiting has backfired and people who they might just about have hung on to are now inclined to be voting against them because they’re sick of it being dragged out. Plus reform are doing well enough they won’t pull a bait and switch because they can sniff a full-on takeover in the offing. He’s put himself in worst possible scenario territory - a generational wipeout.
Which is, of course, richly deserved and absolutely to be enjoyed come election day.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Another sign they might be in electoral trouble. He's got a 20,000 majority.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is like when they made Gareth "Team Leader" in The Office.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:31 pm
by Youngian
Andrew, I want you to my new Nick Clegg.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:32 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Over to the Health Secretary, Geoffrey Norman.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:21 am
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:17 pm I’m not an expert on the hotel trade, but "government corporation to bring back upmarket tourism to Scarborough" looks like a money pit wairting to happen.
Knocking it down for a caravan park would probably be better for tourism but Duncan has captured the public imagination.