In reply, Goodwin told the Guardian: “What I said isn’t racist. They devalue the term by saying this.”
Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:04 pmGoodwin's Law?In reply, Goodwin told the Guardian: “What I said isn’t racist. They devalue the term by saying this.”
Goodwin just reflects legitimate concerns of ordinary people but doesn't throw petrol bombs through the windows of Pakistanis. So not a real racist.
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:05 pm Nice of metropolitan arts fan, Michael Gove, to print this filth in The Spectator. Gove gave every impression of being proud of the school results in London when he was Education Secretary. Does he think those kids hear violent ancestral voices too? What about kids in some mostly white parts of England who don't get high grades? What ancestral voices are they listening to?"Aaaah but I'm just letting both sides have a chance to speak and see their ideas tested in the crucible of debate that is the public arena, and anyway just because something might be unpleasant that doesn't mean it's not true, and besides, if you're shutting down debate that's a chilling* attack on free speech and that makes you the real racist and aaaahh..."
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 2:57 pmYep, just another boring, formulaic journalistic cliché along with adding "-gate" to any minor "scandal".
*It's always a 'chilling' attack or effect; have you noticed that?
Critics say that along with the chaos in the Reform-led council of Kent, the farcical scenes in Cornwall, where Reform act as the official opposition are further evidence that the party is not capable of delivering beyond a protest vote.
Two key figures involved in the fiasco, the former leader and deputy leader of the Reform group in Cornwall, said interference from national figures in the party was in part behind their decision to stand down and could also be blamed for some of the infighting that has brought Reform into disrepute.
Rowland O’Connor, a seasoned figure in the party who won 16.5% of the vote in North Cornwall in last year’s general election, was the first to stand down in early October – not only stepping down as deputy but from Reform itself.
“I made a commitment to serve the people of my division as a local councillor and to represent their best interests on anything to do with council services: buses, transport, roads, hedges, potholes, bins, all the things that one would expect a council to be involved in,” said O’Connor, who represents St Columb Major, St Mawgan and St Wenn division.
“But the position I found myself in as deputy leader and also as a Reform UK councillor, was that the national agenda right was being emphasised.”
O’Connor said the two key propositions from Reform UK on a national level were challenging immigration and net zero. “The direct impact of immigration in Cornwall is negligible,” he said. On net zero, Reform councillors sitting on planning committees – like all councillors – are required to be apolitical in their decision-making, he added.
“There was an ongoing divergence between what time I was able to dedicate to serving the residents in my division versus trying to unravel the push-pull between national and local.”
- By Youngian