[Samanfur]

The thugs now think that they're clever if they use 14 instead.

Admiral Doenitz? The very short lived second Fuhrer.

As explained here.

[Killer Whale]

The thugs now think that they're clever if they use 14 instead.

Admiral Doenitz? The very short lived second Fuhrer.

'The Fourteen Words', innit?

[Andy McDandy]

Admiral Doenitz?

"Mein Fuhrer, here is a brief report summarising our military situation in one rude word, the English for "We Surrender", and the phone numbers for Marshal Zukhov and General Eisenhower."

[Oboogie]

I don't think most of his supporters would say these things now, and would have thought kids like Farage were appalling when they were at school. It's whether they think they're relevant now that matters, and most of them probably won't. But it does also make him look shifty, as does the Russia stuff. He'll cop it much more when he appears on eg Question Time.

They absolutely would say it. Maybe not at first, but like the flagshaggers, a couple of minutes and they'd be right in there talking about dinghies and illegals.

This is perfect.

[RedSparrows]

I don't think most of his supporters would say these things now, and would have thought kids like Farage were appalling when they were at school. It's whether they think they're relevant now that matters, and most of them probably won't. But it does also make him look shifty, as does the Russia stuff. He'll cop it much more when he appears on eg Question Time.

They absolutely would say it. Maybe not at first, but like the flagshaggers, a couple of minutes and they'd be right in there talking about dinghies and illegals.

This is perfect.

Jesus fucking Christ, and this is the 'common sense legitimate concerns' we're supposed to bend over fucking backwards for.

[Killer Whale]

This is what social media echo chambers do. I've seen it happen in real time on Threads (which I've had to leave for my own sanity). Any paranoid far right fantasy takes merely days or even hours to become established fact. The thing about the (former) Mayor of Brighton (a ceremonial role with little political power) was endemic on there a few months ago.

I'm starting to think that permanent psychological damage is being done, way, way beyond the effects of the traditional right wing media.

[davidjay]

The thugs now think that they're clever if they use 14 instead.

Admiral Doenitz? The very short lived second Fuhrer.

14 words. Some quote about having lots of white kids.

[kreuzberger]

Poking the bear, as it were ...

[Tubby Isaacs]

Mel Stride is trying this nonsense too. The break of the code is apparently that the economy was doing better than she seemed to suggest, hence the very positive market reaction.

[Tubby Isaacs]

This is something I don't get at all, the backlash here. I had the same reaction when I heard the Bank of England had met Reform, but I think I was wrong.

It's not "bending the knee". Nobody has scrapped "DEI" scholarships, abandoned studies into race, censored speeches or paid over cash to Farage. It's lobbying, which is (despite the horror that attaches to this in some quarters) what everyone should do. I expect the case being made is a largely economic one, with a big focus on overseas students. Frankly, it's a case that could be made to a much wider group of the public, and the current government. I think it's underrated the extent to which Reform are purely ignorant. "You want to train more British engineers? Well that costs shitloads, and that foreigner studying liberal arts, will make it a lot cheaper for you to do that". Maybe pure Orbanism will win out, maybe it won't, but it's surely worth making the argument.

The Greens are currently "surging in the polls" to 4th place, behind 3 parties who aren't very keen on overseas students. Relying on the Greens may not be the best strategy.

Where I think there is an objection to be made is to the "Russell Group" thing. They're self-selecting, and there's maybe a perception here that they're pushing self-interest as "proper universities" v the others, though this may not be fair.