[Samanfur]

The thugs now think that they're clever if they use 14 instead.

Admiral Doenitz? The very short lived second Fuhrer.

As explained here.

[Killer Whale]

The thugs now think that they're clever if they use 14 instead.

Admiral Doenitz? The very short lived second Fuhrer.

'The Fourteen Words', innit?

[Andy McDandy]

Admiral Doenitz?

"Mein Fuhrer, here is a brief report summarising our military situation in one rude word, the English for "We Surrender", and the phone numbers for Marshal Zukhov and General Eisenhower."

[Oboogie]

I don't think most of his supporters would say these things now, and would have thought kids like Farage were appalling when they were at school. It's whether they think they're relevant now that matters, and most of them probably won't. But it does also make him look shifty, as does the Russia stuff. He'll cop it much more when he appears on eg Question Time.

They absolutely would say it. Maybe not at first, but like the flagshaggers, a couple of minutes and they'd be right in there talking about dinghies and illegals.

This is perfect.

[RedSparrows]

I don't think most of his supporters would say these things now, and would have thought kids like Farage were appalling when they were at school. It's whether they think they're relevant now that matters, and most of them probably won't. But it does also make him look shifty, as does the Russia stuff. He'll cop it much more when he appears on eg Question Time.

They absolutely would say it. Maybe not at first, but like the flagshaggers, a couple of minutes and they'd be right in there talking about dinghies and illegals.

This is perfect.

Jesus fucking Christ, and this is the 'common sense legitimate concerns' we're supposed to bend over fucking backwards for.

[Killer Whale]

This is what social media echo chambers do. I've seen it happen in real time on Threads (which I've had to leave for my own sanity). Any paranoid far right fantasy takes merely days or even hours to become established fact. The thing about the (former) Mayor of Brighton (a ceremonial role with little political power) was endemic on there a few months ago.

I'm starting to think that permanent psychological damage is being done, way, way beyond the effects of the traditional right wing media.

[davidjay]

The thugs now think that they're clever if they use 14 instead.

Admiral Doenitz? The very short lived second Fuhrer.

14 words. Some quote about having lots of white kids.

[kreuzberger]

Poking the bear, as it were ...

[Tubby Isaacs]

Mel Stride is trying this nonsense too. The break of the code is apparently that the economy was doing better than she seemed to suggest, hence the very positive market reaction.

[Tubby Isaacs]

This is something I don't get at all, the backlash here. I had the same reaction when I heard the Bank of England had met Reform, but I think I was wrong.

It's not "bending the knee". Nobody has scrapped "DEI" scholarships, abandoned studies into race, censored speeches or paid over cash to Farage. It's lobbying, which is (despite the horror that attaches to this in some quarters) what everyone should do. I expect the case being made is a largely economic one, with a big focus on overseas students. Frankly, it's a case that could be made to a much wider group of the public, and the current government. I think it's underrated the extent to which Reform are purely ignorant. "You want to train more British engineers? Well that costs shitloads, and that foreigner studying liberal arts, will make it a lot cheaper for you to do that". Maybe pure Orbanism will win out, maybe it won't, but it's surely worth making the argument.

The Greens are currently "surging in the polls" to 4th place, behind 3 parties who aren't very keen on overseas students. Relying on the Greens may not be the best strategy.

Where I think there is an objection to be made is to the "Russell Group" thing. They're self-selecting, and there's maybe a perception here that they're pushing self-interest as "proper universities" v the others, though this may not be fair.

[Abernathy]

O'Brien's good this morning. Going after Farage's racism relentlessly. Keep it up, James.

[Boiler]

What's this all about? Taken from BTL in the Guardian;

Seem the deform propaganda outlet, gbeebies, are claiming the BBC planted a refugee, gave him a new phone with the pre-scripted question, and earpiece, all just to make their boy look like an idiot... :/

[The Weeping Angel]

I'm surprised at how long this story has run for.

[Boiler]

Yes, normally the media would have swept it under the carpet and reverted to Reeves/Starmer bashing by now.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Hard to make 28 witnesses go away, but a few people have tried.

But I don't think everyone in the Right media sees Farage as their man. If he fell away, you'd expect the Tories to get into the lead again.

[Youngian]

I seem to recall as a kid that the stock Nazi villain was never off 70s TV drama. As well as a stream of harrowing documentaries about the gas chambers. But inspiration for Nigel's jolly japes to bully the yids at school.

[Tubby Isaacs]

There was a strand of (mainstream) punk that leaned into Nazi imagery to piss people off. This wasn't very good and upset, among others, Sydney Bernstein. But again, they didn't turn up at Granada Television, telling Sydney that Hitler should have gassed him.

Nonetheless Farage will probably tell us that the people with the real questions to answer are Siouxsie and the Banshees.

[Killer Whale]

Siouxsie and the Banshees.

"Too many Jews for my liking" was a line in the original version of Love In A Void. But they also walked off stage in response to sieg heiling skinheads.

[Andy McDandy]

In the apocryphal words of Tony Wilson, "Yes, we have a band called Joy Division. We also have a band called Durutti Column. What do you think that proves?"

[Youngian]

Farage bought up Bernard Manning who wasn't BBC prime time but did front Granada's Wheeltappers and Shunters variety show. There's no racist material from Manning so even in the early 70s you were read the Riot Act for a family audience.