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By Yug
#101761
And while the good news is waiting for a sunnier leader, the bad-faith media from the Mail to the Grauniad keep pumping out their bullshit. The public have no reason to believe that Labour is not only working, but working for them, and the wrong notion that Britain is broken and Labour are shit gets even more firmly entrenched.
By davidjay
#101763
Yug wrote: Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:13 pm And while the good news is waiting for a sunnier leader, the bad-faith media from the Mail to the Grauniad keep pumping out their bullshit. The public have no reason to believe that Labour is not only working, but working for them, and the wrong notion that Britain is broken and Labour are shit gets even more firmly entrenched.
It's times like this when you wish for another Alistair Campbell.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#101772
Sadly (maybe) the days of some hard nut keeping media mostly in line (sort of) are long gone. Here's an example that caught my eye. The generally very good Jonn Elledge picks up on a quote from a chap who hates Labour as evidence that "Starmer thought everything was fine before" (the bastard). Evidence for this is Starmer saying that he didn't fear for the country under past Tory Governments like he does under Reform. Obama said the same thing about not fearing for the future if McCain or Romney won, but that he did under Trump. The point being made is very clear- it isn't that everything is fine when the Tories win.

Elledge baffling says he gets that point, then shows he doesn't. What is the point of this stuff? Who does he think wins from the idea that nobody is changing anything, and the Prime Minister doesn't care anyway? It's mad. I'm sure if you put to Elledge that lots of people are still going to claim asylum, move to the UK for work and study, so nothing's changing, he'd strongly refute that. What's the difference with all the other changes?

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By Tubby Isaacs
#101773
I don't know who it was, but I saw somebody of this type (not Elledge) saying that one problem with Labour now was that it wasn't doing the Blairite economic policies. I've been more defensive of these than others, but nobody can say there weren't problems with them that hurt Labour in its "heartlands". The Government is trying to address some of that, with working rights, renters rights, industrial policy, training, and devolution. Some of it won't work, sure, but I thought that was a clue to why the Government just gets it in the neck all the time.
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By The Weeping Angel
#101779
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:09 pm Sadly (maybe) the days of some hard nut keeping media mostly in line (sort of) are long gone. Here's an example that caught my eye. The generally very good Jonn Elledge picks up on a quote from a chap who hates Labour as evidence that "Starmer thought everything was fine before" (the bastard). Evidence for this is Starmer saying that he didn't fear for the country under past Tory Governments like he does under Reform. Obama said the same thing about not fearing for the future if McCain or Romney won, but that he did under Trump. The point being made is very clear- it isn't that everything is fine when the Tories win.

Elledge baffling says he gets that point, then shows he doesn't. What is the point of this stuff? Who does he think wins from the idea that nobody is changing anything, and the Prime Minister doesn't care anyway? It's mad. I'm sure if you put to Elledge that lots of people are still going to claim asylum, move to the UK for work and study, so nothing's changing, he'd strongly refute that. What's the difference with all the other changes?

I saw that a big problem is that a lot of the media people on there have realized that bashing Starmer is the quickest way to get likes on Bluesky
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By Tubby Isaacs
#101780
Wes Streeting improves offer to resident doctors in England in attempt to stop strikes
BMA puts health secretary’s offer, which includes pledge to double number of extra training places, to resident doctors
This would be a feather in his cap if this resolved the strikes. Actually it probably won't, because everyone will claim he caused the strikes we've had by not going it before. Of course, that's not how it works, the Minister has to have the capacity to make new offers, which he probably didn't before.

I still don't want him as Leader, mind.
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By Boiler
#101782
I still don't see what makes resident doctors think they're entitled to have their pay brought up to a level the rest of us have just had to grin and bear.
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