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By kreuzberger
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:29 pm I'm tempted to say Keir is properly fucked.
Could someone persuade him that he has a window of opportunity? One whereby he still has the narrowing measure of bandwidth to resign after the Christmas break and hand over to a successor, giving them the maximum opportunity to successfully take the party in to 2029.

He doesn't strike me as a stubborn, vainglorious man who would refuse to see reason.

For the record, I really do feel sorry for him on both a professional and personal level. I really thought that he was the Beaufort 10 of change, but there were worries from the earliest days of the campaign, such as when he was left floundering by the otherwise wholly unremarkable Beth Rigby.

It was like those moments when you see a car engine warning light briefly coming on and think that you can safely ignore it.
By Oboogie
#102250
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:29 pm
Abernathy wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:11 pm Simon Jenkins in “getting it right” shock .

Merry Christmas, Keir Starmer: despite everything, you’re still the best man for the job


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... 1766144039
I'm tempted to say Keir is properly fucked.
I couldn't disagree more, in the absence of a successor with a magic wand, Labour (and therefore the country) may well be fucked. Keir certainly isn't.
By mattomac
#102268
kreuzberger wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:45 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:29 pm I'm tempted to say Keir is properly fucked.
Could someone persuade him that he has a window of opportunity? One whereby he still has the narrowing measure of bandwidth to resign after the Christmas break and hand over to a successor, giving them the maximum opportunity to successfully take the party in to 2029.

He doesn't strike me as a stubborn, vainglorious man who would refuse to see reason.

For the record, I really do feel sorry for him on both a professional and personal level. I really thought that he was the Beaufort 10 of change, but there were worries from the earliest days of the campaign, such as when he was left floundering by the otherwise wholly unremarkable Beth Rigby.

It was like those moments when you see a car engine warning light briefly coming on and think that you can safely ignore it.
I think it’s way too early, you’d be looking at 2027 at the earliest to make such a move.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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Oboogie wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:58 pm
I couldn't disagree more, in the absence of a successor with a magic wand, Labour (and therefore the country) may well be fucked. Keir certainly isn't.
I agree. Pure sarcasm on my part. If Simon Jenkins supports him, he’s fucked, that sort of thing.
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By Oboogie
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Dec 20, 2025 8:45 am
Oboogie wrote: Fri Dec 19, 2025 5:58 pm
I couldn't disagree more, in the absence of a successor with a magic wand, Labour (and therefore the country) may well be fucked. Keir certainly isn't.
I agree. Pure sarcasm on my part. If Simon Jenkins supports him, he’s fucked, that sort of thing.
Apologies, went straight over my head.
There are so many people (on Bluesky mostly), demanding Starmer must go, often without naming a successor and, even if they do name someone, they provide no details of what they would do differently or evidence that they would be electorally more popular.
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By The Weeping Angel
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Another fun day on Bluesky. When we get Jonn Elledge, amongst others,s saying Labour keeps punching social liberals in the face.

By Oboogie
#102655
Boiler wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 2:16 pm Didn't the Corbynistas used to tell people to fuck off to the Tories?
Habitually, like they suffered some form of tourettes.
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