[Tubby Isaacs]

Trunp seizing Greenland was always a long shot. Even the Republican Party has enough people connected with it who'd kick off at that. Pulling a stroke that concedes Ukraine is scarily likely. and that's what Starmer and the other European leaders have been afraid of. Anybody can see it. Apart from the media apparently, who think that some "weak Starmer" rubbish is better copy.

[Boiler]

Meanwhile, "normal" service has been resumed, with something that has a familiar ring to it:

Trump sues JPMorgan Chase and Jamie Dimon for at least $5bn

Donald Trump has sued JPMorgan Chase and its CEO, Jamie Dimon, for at least $5bn after accusing America’s largest bank of “debanking” him.

The US president alleged that JPMorgan stopped offering him banking services in the wake of the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021. Earlier this month, he claimed it had “incorrectly and inappropriately” discriminated against him.

[Tubby Isaacs]

That's the thing with Republicans, they're fundamentally opposed to silly lawsuits.

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Posted without comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czr444j671vo

Donald Trump has sparked fresh outrage in the UK after saying Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan.

Labour MP Emily Thornberry, the chair of the foreign affairs committee, called it an "absolute insult" to the 457 British service personnel killed in the conflict, while Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey said: "How dare he question their sacrifice?"

Conservative MP Ben Obese-Jecty, who served in Afghanistan, said it was "sad to see our nation's sacrifice, and that of our Nato partners, held so cheaply".

The UK was among several allies to join the US in Afghanistan from 2001, after it invoked Nato's collective security clause following the 9/11 terror attacks.

The US president told Fox News on Thursday that he was "not sure" the military alliance would be there for America "if we ever needed them".

"We've never needed them," he said, adding: "We have never really asked anything of them."

[Oboogie]

I wonder how many US veterans there are who are witnesses to the fact that is a lie? Must be thousands.
Then there are the millions of Americans who've seen the footage on TV, not to mention all the YouTube bodycam clips of guys with 'funny accents' engaged in fire fights with the Taliban.
What do they make of their President telling them it never happened?

[davidjay]

One thing I know about the military is that they have more respect for their foreign counterparts, even the enemy, than they do for draft dodgers. Trump's now alienating his core support.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

His core support which has so far failed to refuse illegal orders...

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Brilliant...

[Youngian]

If you missed Carney’s speech coinciding with Trump’s Greenland capitulation, he outlined as to how the heart of America’s global influence was now destroyed. Medium sized powers need to bind together and forge ahead creating their own international order. In essence EU plus global allies. Unfortunately you need a PHD in Kremlinology to gauge what the UK government thinks about all this and the Tory opposition are of no intellectual relevance on the matter.

This pathetic retort illustrates why Carney is right.

[Andy McDandy]

Saw the Board of Peace described as "list of places where you shouldn't drink the tap water".

Also, about half its members are on the USA's banned list.

[Youngian]

He did Carney's name correct. There's a clip somewhere of Trump addressing him as Mike Canada.

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[Bones McCoy]

One thing I know about the military is that they have more respect for their foreign counterparts, even the enemy, than they do for draft dodgers. Trump's now alienating his core support.

Bear in mind that people's minds often do a 180 flip when they retire.

There'll be hundreds of American "Vets" of the type.
Guys who never set foot outside the paperclip depot in Wisconsin.
Yet they elbow their way to the front of the July 4th parade.

[Boiler]

Meanwhile, BTL in the Guardian there are plenty saying that the NATO forces fought an illegal war at the request of the US so got what was coming to them.

[Oboogie]

It puts the likes of Farage and Tommy Cokehead in an interesting dilemma, do they continue to genuflect at the feet of the Mango Minge or defend 'our boys'.

[Andy McDandy]

Not at all. They'll just make some noises about how great Britain *could* be, if it weren't for the usual suspects.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Meanwhile, BTL in the Guardian there are plenty saying that the NATO forces fought an illegal war at the request of the US so got what was coming to them.

In Afghanistan?

I dreamt that attack on the World Trade Center, did I? Or was that just bin Laden, and nothing to do with the Afghanistan Government? That's a convenient distinction.

[Oboogie]

Not at all. They'll just make some noises about how great Britain *could* be, if it weren't for the usual suspects.

I disagree, they are sucking up to Trump - a couple of weeks ago Tommy Robinson was begging Trump to invade Britain - the same Trump who has just called the British army cowards. Tommy's followers worship the military.

[Boiler]

Meanwhile, BTL in the Guardian there are plenty saying that the NATO forces fought an illegal war at the request of the US so got what was coming to them.

In Afghanistan?

I dreamt that attack on the World Trade Center, did I? Or was that just bin Laden, and nothing to do with the Afghanistan Government? That's a convenient distinction.

That's the one.

To give you a flavour:

And which nations unquestionably answered the call and plunged the Middle East into chaos and destruction, far beyond any reasonable idea of self-defence?

[Oboogie]

And which nations unquestionably answered the call and plunged the Middle East into chaos and destruction, far beyond any reasonable idea of self-defence?

Afghanistan isn't usually counted as the Middle East, I think they're talking about Iraq.