#104503
The NEC could, and in my view should, now legitimately reject Burnham’s request to be permitted to bid for selection in the Gorton & Denton parliamentary by-election.

The party rule that says that any incumbent mayor seeking to resign their position in order to try to stand for election to another representative body must obtain permission from the party’s governing body in order to do so has sound reasons for its existence.

The NEC’s role here is to consider the effects of the incumbent Greater Manchester mayor abandoning his post two years early not only on the (possibly dubious) prospects, in the present political climate, of Labour being able to retain the Manchester mayoralty at the by-election that would have to follow, but also the financial impact of having to fight what could legtimately be viewed as a completely unnecessary by-election on the party.

The NEC will no doubt also consider the viability and prospects of success in the Gorton & Denton by-election with Burnham as the candidate. Again, the corollary of the positive advantages of having Burnham as the candidate in the parliamentary by-election must logically be the negative aspects of the absence of Burnham as a candidate to defend his mayoralty at the by-election for the mayoralty.

This an important, and serious, decision for Labour’s governing body. For all the feverish talk of “blocking” Burnham, the wailing about a “denial of democracy”, or the poor “optics” that denying Burnham’s bid would allegedly entail, that is merely so much nonsense.

I don’t doubt that NEC members will have an eye on the politics of the situation, but I sincerely hope that they will mind their work, and come to the right decision, which is that Burnham cannot simply resign an important post like Mancester mayor on a whim. - whether his intention is to enable him to challenge the Prime Minister or not .
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#104505
Don’t think he can be blocked really. People hate stitch ups. Hopefully he gets elected, and has to do a spell in the trenches. He has talent for presentation, which hasn’t been great from the government generally. Put him to work on that, let him earn his stripes.
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#104506
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:24 pm It's a right mess with no good outcomes for the party.
Depends how Burnham behaves. If he behaves well and puts his talents to good use, there’s the potential for a stronger top team. He didn’t arse about under Brown/ Ed. He’s capable of doing that again.
#104510
As the country's under threat from Moscow and Washington, the ambitions of Andy Burnham are small beer not worth getting excited about. If he wants to be the No1 statesman he better start acting the part if he enters the Commons. As Tubby suggests on past evidence, he isn't Boris Johnson and will knuckle down.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:57 pm Don’t think he can be blocked really. People hate stitch ups. Hopefully he gets elected, and has to do a spell in the trenches. He has talent for presentation, which hasn’t been great from the government generally. Put him to work on that, let him earn his stripes.
I feel like letting him stand is the least bad option, but I'm not happy with how he's caused a huge problem for the party by standing.
#104518
I'm rather hoping this will end with humiliation for him: losing the seat to Reform would be regrettable but it'd shut the Starmer critics up. Labour has enough of a legitimacy problem with the media and it seems, some of its own supporters so to sow the seeds of its own destruction - again - via Burnham seems like utter lunacy to me.
#104545
I think I might be changing my mind on this. The NEC is meeting about now to decide whether to allow Burnham's request to be permitted to try for the Gorton & Denton by-election .

Since the entire news media world seems to be absolutely certain that this is but the beginning of a bid by Burnham to displace Keir Starmer as Prime Minister, and that a horrendously destructive civil war will immediately erupt within the Labour Party if Burnham is "blocked" from seeking to return to Westminster, I'm starting to think it might be better if Keir were to adopt a "put up or shut up" John Major style approach and if not actually welcome Burnham's challenge, at least go about defending his leadership robustly from it. Tell his "loyalists" on the NEC not to decline Burnham's request, and let him go for it. If he does, and gets selected, and holds the seat in the by-election, and then mounts a leadership challenge, then so be it. Take him on, and face him down. In 1995, Major easily defeated John Redwood when he was challenged. I think Keir could do similar.

Alternatively, it's entirely feasible that Burnham could fight Gorton & Denton and lose, particularly in the current feverish political climate. The progressive left vote in the constituency could be split at least four ways, with the twat in the hat (Galloway ) sure not to miss a chance to chuck his usual publicity-seeking spanner into the works.

So Burnham tries to get back to Westminster, fails, and is no longer Manchester mayor. End of Burnham problem, and back to serious business. Could even do Starmer's public image some good.
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#104549
^^This. An excellent post, Abers.

Major, IIRC, practically called a GE to shut his critics up - didn't he?

The last paragraph of your post is - to this exceedingly disillusioned voter - the ideal outcome re: Burnham. The so-called "King In The North" (I fucking hate that) dethrones himself.
#104551
Early reports (just in ) that the NEC has apparently voted NOT to allow Burnham's request to try to win selection in the parliamentary by-election.
#104552
Apparently the vote was 9-1 against Burnham, with Lucy Powell the sole vote in favour.

There will now ensue all manner of pearl-clutching and shit-stirring from the usual suspects about an alleged affront to democracy, yadda yadda yadda.

Same shit, different day.
#104558
Samanfur wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:15 pm
Abernathy wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 12:08 pm Apparently the vote was 9-1 against Burnham, with Lucy Powell the sole vote in favour.
Shabana Mahmood abstained.
Routine, as she was chairing the meeting.
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#104562
Was canvasaing for a council by-election yesterday and an MP told us Burnham will be blocked. So Andy must have known this as well.

Burnham obviously isn't going to stand as a hard done by plucky independent but Green Ken Polanski will be his surrogate. Search is on for a 21st century Frank Dobson to do battle.
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