By Bones McCoy
#104766
Watchman wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 6:05 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:40 am Go for the bureaucratic one. Bobbies on the beat sets my teeth on edge.
As I approach 70 years on this rock, I still do not have a recollection of a "bobby on every street corner"
The only time I saw it was when the NF organised a rally at the square by the library.
During the Ilford North 1978 By-election.
The Fash got to march down the high street, counter-protest used our street.


Sadly, one Tessa Jowell failed to defend a narrow majority and Vivian Bendall (Con) gained the seat.

The current MP is Wes Streeting.
It's a sign of the power of the press that my parent's generation often observe.
"The seat was Tory since Queen Victoria's time".
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By Tubby Isaacs
#104800
Wasn't Vivian Bendall a massive headbanger? There were lots around in those days, even if the general quality of Conservative MP was much higher than it is now.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#104816
Amazing how often "voted against the Maastricht Treaty" comes up with this crowd. Labour had plenty of those in that era too, who'd have fucked Neil Kinnock over if he'd won.
By Bones McCoy
#104817
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 4:47 pm Wasn't Vivian Bendall a massive headbanger? There were lots around in those days, even if the general quality of Conservative MP was much higher than it is now.
I don't recall much about him except being a very vocal "Bring Back Hanging" type.
He may have had other kinks.

I don't think his hanging stance was exclusive when you consider the Tebbit Wave coming into parliament.
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By Abernathy
#104820
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 6:09 pm Amazing how often "voted against the Maastricht Treaty" comes up with this crowd. Labour had plenty of those in that era too, who'd have fucked Neil Kinnock over if he'd won.
I recall a Scots Tory MP called Teddy Taylor (ugly bugger with a Charltonesque combover) also banging on about what he incorrectly referred to as “My-Strict”.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#104822
There were lots of those too. But I don't think it came very close to being reintroduced. Last attempt I'm aware of was 1994, and it lost 403-159. I don't think any non Tories/ Ulster Unionists voted for, which made it very unlikely to pass.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#104823
Abernathy wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 6:20 pm
I recall a Scots Tory MP called Teddy Taylor (ugly bugger with a Charltonesque combover) also banging on about what he incorrectly referred to as “My-Strict”.
He was once a guest star on Drop The Dead Donkey, and showed he could at least laugh at himself. Some of the names on here, probably less so. Here are the ones who voted against. A few like John Biffen and Richard Shepherd were serious people with a bee in their bonnet about Europe. Lots of the others weren't.
Rupert Allason (Torbay), Vivian Bendall (Ilford N), John Biffen (Shropshire N), Sir Richard Body (Holland with Boston), Sir Nicholas Bonsor (Upminster), Sir Rhodes Boyson (Brent N), Nicholas Budgen (Wolverhampton SW), John Butcher (Coventry SW), John Carlisle (Luton N), Michael Carttiss (Great Yarmouth), William Cash (Stafford), James Cran (Beverley), Iain Duncan-Smith (Chingford), Peter Fry (Wellingborough), Sir George Gardiner (Reigate), Christopher Gill (Ludlow), Teresa Gorman (Billericay), Harry Greenway (Ealing N), Warren Hawksley (Halesowen and Stourbridge), Bernard Jenkin (Colchester N), Toby Jessel (Twickenham), Roger Knapman (Stroud), Barry Legg (Milton Keynes SW), Michael Lord (Suffolk Central), Tony Marlow (Northampton N), Sir Roger Moate (Faversham), James Pawsey (Rugby and Kenilworth), David Porter (Waveney), Andrew Robathan (Blaby), Richard Shepherd (Aldridge-Brownhills), Sir Trevor Skeet (Bedfordshire N), Michael Spicer (Worcestershire S), Walter Sweeney (Vale of Glamorgan), Sir Peter Tapsell (Lindsey E), Sir Teddy Taylor (Southend E), John Townend (Bridlington), Bill Walker (Tayside N), John Whittingdale (Colchester S and Maldon), John Wilkinson (Ruislip Northwood), Ann Winterton (Congleton), Nicholas Winterton (Macclesfield).
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By Tubby Isaacs
#104824
And the Labour MPs. Lots and lots of them.
Diane Abbott (Hackney N and Stoke Newington), Irene Adams (Paisley N), John Austin-Walker (Woolwich), Harry Barnes (Derbyshire NE), Tony Benn (Chesterfield), Andrew Bennett (Denton and Reddish), Roger Berry (Kingswood), Jimmy Boyce (Rotherham), Jim Callaghan (Heywood and Middleton), Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley), Dennis Canavan (Falkirk W), Jamie Cann (Ipswich), Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Leith), Michael Clapham (Barnsley W and Penistone), Michael Connarty (Falkirk E), Jeremy Corbyn (Islington N), Jean Corston (Bristol E), Bob Cryer (Bradford S), Ian Davidson (Glasgow Govan), Denzil Davies (Llanelli), Terry Davis (Birmingham Hodge Hill), Brian Donohoe (Cunninghame S), Gwyneth Dunwoody (Crewe and Nantwich), William Etherington (Sunderland N), Frank Field (Birkenhead), Neil Gerrard (Walthamstow), Dr Norman Godman (Greenock and Port Glasgow), Mildred Gordon (Bow and Poplar), Bryan Gould (Dagenham), Peter Hain (Neath), Mike Hall (Warrington S), Kate Hoey (Vauxhall), George Howarth (Knowsley N), Kevin Hughes (Doncaster N), Roy Hughes (Newport E), Lynne Jones (Birmingham Selly Oak), Tessa Jowell (Dulwich), Terry Lewis (Worsley), Robert Litherland (Manchester Central), Ken Livingstone (Brent E), John McAllion (Dundee E), William McKelvey (Kilmarnock and Loudoun), John McWilliam (Blaydon), Max Madden (Bradford W), David Marshall (Glasgow Shettleston), Jim Marshall (Leicester S), Bill Michie (Sheffield Heeley), Austin Mitchell (Great Grimsby), George Mudie (Leeds E), Bill Olner (Nuneaton), Robert Parry (Liverpool Riverside), Colin Pickthall (Lancashire W), Greg Pope (Hyndburn), Bridget Prentice (Lewisham E), Gordon Prentice (Pendle), Martin Redmond (Don Valley), Jo Richardson (Barking), Ted Rowlands (Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney), Peter Shore (Bethnal Green and Stepney), Alan Simpson (Nottingham S), Dennis Skinner (Bolsover), Llewellyn Smith (Blaneau Gwent), George Stevenson (Stoke S), Mike Watson (Glasgow Central), Alan J Williams (Swansea W), David Winnick (Walsall N), Audrey Wise (Preston)
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