[Bones McCoy]

Farage is still maintaining that he has turned down a number of potential Tory defectors because they are not the right fit for Reform, I really wish he would name names because I'm struggling to think of any Tories who are worse than Braverman and Rossendale.

You're assuming they'd be too right wing for him? Perhaps some more centrist ones fear losing their seats, so are trying to look further right than they really are?

Truss would spring to mind, Andrew Brigden perhaps? But yeah I would assume they will be more on the centre right than the right and far right.

Francois must be wondering where it all went wrong.

[mattomac]

Chris Mason having another wank.

It's Suella Braverman these people are only "names" because Japes Johnson and his killing crew seized the party and now they are fucking off like the rats they are.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yv97e7j5lo

[Bones McCoy]

Today at Reform

[The Weeping Angel]

[Samanfur]

Even GB News is giving the nicotine-stained man-frog a grilling.

Any other party should be putting this quote on billboards. It's not a good soundbite with a by-election pencilled in:

[davidjay]

I wonder what 30p Lee thinks of all these high profile defections? One minute he's a cert for Home Secretary, the next he's in line for junior minister for road sweeping and bin collections.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Who are the Tories who really caused it to fail then, if it wasn't the fault of Zahawi, Jenrick or Braverman?

Perhaps a mysterious cabal of the relatively sane mucked it all up. Caroline Noakes, Robert Buckland and Roger Gale. It must have been them.

[Andy McDandy]

Big boys did it and ran away.

[Youngian]

Perhaps it was the Brussels bureaucrats that did it.

Farage lying through his teeth about Swellin’s sacking. Nothing to do with the ECHR but goading fascist thugs to attend Cenotaph commemorations and have a punch up with cops.

[davidjay]

Who are the Tories who really caused it to fail then, if it wasn't the fault of Zahawi, Jenrick or Braverman?

Perhaps a mysterious cabal of the relatively sane mucked it all up. Caroline Noakes, Robert Buckland and Roger Gale. It must have been them.

Same as Brexit - it would have worked if they'd been allowed to do it properly.

[AOB]

I wonder what 30p Lee thinks of all these high profile defections? One minute he's a cert for Home Secretary, the next he's in line for junior minister for road sweeping and bin collections.

On a similar note, surely the original, more rabid and hardcore section of their supporters must be as pissed off by the recent turn of Tories and events in the same way that the fans of a slightly edgy, alternative band in music are when their group release a radio-friendly tune and gradually become mainstream. "They were better in the early days" etc. They feel that their band has been taken away from them. Diluted to cater for wider tastes, and no different than what is already out there. That was one of the arguments of Reform admirers, that the Tories and Labour were too similar and Reform were different. All this points to the likelihood of division further down the line, these ex Tories have turned once, hopefully the new-look Reform will all be turning on each other at some point.

[kreuzberger]

... in the same way that the fans of a slightly edgy, alternative band in music are when their group release a radio-friendly tune and gradually become mainstream. "They were better in the early days" etc. They feel that their band has been taken away from them.

I now have visions of Andrea Jenkyns doing a cover of Rock the Casbah ...

[Samanfur]

Oi! I've just eaten!

[soulboy]

... in the same way that the fans of a slightly edgy, alternative band in music are when their group release a radio-friendly tune and gradually become mainstream. "They were better in the early days" etc. They feel that their band has been taken away from them.

I now have visions of Andrea Jenkyns doing a cover of Rock the Casbah ...

That might cause problems for the MP for Boston & Skegness (& Dubai)