[Boiler]

This is a bit fucking rich, coming from a draft-dodging Septic:

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C'mon Mother Nature, do your stuff.

[mattomac]

He needs Ukraine drone support capacity though doesn’t he?

Did he wear a suit to ask that?

[Bones McCoy]

This is a bit fucking rich, coming from a draft-dodging Septic:


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C'mon Mother Nature, do your stuff.

He was so grateful after Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Andy McDandy]

Two points in all of this sad mess need to be underlined.

1. Just because you're fighting 'bad people', that does not make you by default 'good people'.

2. Having labelled yourselves as good people, that does not mean that whatever you do is good, just because you're doing it.

Sadly, it seems there are many in the USA, ReFuck and the Tories who seem incapable of grasping these ideas.

[Rosvanian]

I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well? Has everything been boiled down to this zero sum? I try to resist this thinking but it's difficult.

[Boiler]

The death of nuance: in this digital age everything is either on or off. Analogue - with its infinite variations - seems to be dead.

[Abernathy]

I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well?

I’d say yes, a significant proportion of Reform voters really are bad, self-centred, and venal people. But a large proportion of them are simply very, very stupid. Of course, the Venn diagrammatic intersection between the bad and venal and the very stupid is incredibly well populated.

[Bones McCoy]

I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well?

I’d say yes, a significant proportion of Reform voters really are bad, self-centred, and venal people. But a large proportion of them are simply very, very stupid. Of course, the Venn diagrammatic intersection between the bad and venal and the very stupid is incredibly well populated.

The stupid ones - and they are plenty - are also bad.
Because our democratic system allows them to damage not just themselves, but the rest of us.

[davidjay]

Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conners.

[Bones McCoy]

Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conners.

The conned still represent a threat.

I do my best to exhibit compassion.
It withers around the third time they regurgitate the latest simple minded 'bot take on events.

[Oboogie]

An interesting discussion of our right-wing media, they're not really pro Tory or Reform, they're actually MAGA! Private Eye make the case that the value to advertisers of US customers is driving editorial decisions to make UK newspapers more appealing to Americans.

[Youngian]

Just been listening to that, a very plausible theory (that tabloid money is now in US online ads) that had passed me by. It does smell odd as apart from the Sun, the Tory press has been somewhat sceptical about Middle East adventurism. Especially when Blair supports it.

[Oboogie]

Just been listening to that, a very plausible theory (that tabloid money is now in US online ads) that had passed me by. It does smell odd as apart from the Sun, the Tory press has been somewhat sceptical about Middle East adventurism. Especially when Blair supports it.

Really? I've heard almost universal media criticism of Starmer for his failure to get stuck into the filthy A-rabs alongside our glorious allies!

[Youngian]

I'll rewrite the paragraph

When Middle East adventurism happened before under the Blair government the Tory press were somewhat scpetical. And weren't particularly gung ho about Libya and Syria interventionism under Cameron. Apart from the Sun, who you'd expect little better.

[Oboogie]

I'll rewrite the paragraph

When Middle East adventurism happened before under the Blair government the Tory press were somewhat scpetical. And weren't particularly gung ho about Libya and Syria interventionism under Cameron. Apart from the Sun, who you'd expect little better.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.

[Bones McCoy]

I see Farage and Badenoch are both against the war, were always against the war, never supported the war.

48 hours from "What's the point in having these boats if we don't use them" to "Won't somebody think of the motorists".

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania...