[Tubby Isaacs]

I was dubious that Darren Jones was telling the truth about what the Cabinet Office said yesterday. He's been backed by Cat Little. This would be quite the blow to Robbins, wouldn't it?

And Karl Turner and Jonathan Bash's response to this is to go after the PM?

I know Alex Wickham used to work for Guido Fawkes, but he's done more than The Guardian to be fair.

[Tubby Isaacs]

What the flying fuck does this mean?! Lots of policies seem to be happening, despite the PM apparently doing everything wrong. Stephen Bush has been on this "Starmer doesn't know how to do anything" kick for yonks now. The big thing here is he said "no pressure existed whatsoever" and what? Bear in mind, Stephen Bush has as much idea what happened as anyone else who wasn't there.

What are these multiple mistakes? Appointing Mandelson, fine. What are the rest? How do they compare to being hauled over the coals for what seems to have been a misleading splash?

[mattomac]

I gave up listening to him a long time ago.

Anyhow seems to have completely fallen off the BBC main page.

[kreuzberger]

Now that the distinctly average sarah.smith@bbc.co.uk* has snaffed Trump's mobile number, the BBC are as proud as Punch and have moved on to "Keir, who?" for this evening's instructional bulletins regarding what should be of greatest concern to us all.

*See how that works?

[Tubby Isaacs]

So Karl Turner and Jonathan Bash haven't managed to keep the story going? Is Sir Keir allowed to spend more time on geopolitical crises till Monday? Or more likely Sunday, when the session with McSweeney will be described as "a bombshell happening tmrw"

[Tubby Isaacs]

Another bombshell we've all missed.

The appointment of Mandelson which the PM approved, very obviously, wasn't actually approved because someone can't find a piece of paper? Mini-scandal that there's no coming back from apparently. Perhaps these can all be added up and together and count as a scandal? And somehow we'll get to the equivalent of "Starmer knew all about the failed vetting, resign!"

[mattomac]

Do love these types….

At this point they have zero interest in seeing anything they don’t want to see. Considering Little totally contradicted Robbins who was held up as a smoking gun when it wasn’t.

[Tubby Isaacs]

There’s a particularly irritating group who know about as much about government as I do, but nonetheless tell us how to do it.

I wouldn’t really have cared if Boris Johnson had done what we know Starmer did in the process of appointing Mandelson.

And I can’t believe most of the media would.

[davidjay]

There’s a particularly irritating group who know about as much about government as I do, but nonetheless tell us how to do it.

I wouldn’t really have cared if Boris Johnson had done what we know Starmer did in the process of appointing Mandelson.

And I can’t believe most of the media would.

The media's double standards where Johnson is concerned are both extensive and effective. Ask people why he resigned and the majority will say cake or parties.

[Oboogie]

Ask people why he resigned and the majority will say cake or parties.

I find that strategically baffling. If I wanted Starmer out, I'd be pushing the point that Johnson had to resign because of a dodgy appointment. The details of the Johnson/Pincher case were not the same as Starmer/Mandelson, of course, but on the surface, they are similar and also benefit from being true.

[mattomac]

This of course was the last straw for Johnson after several other incidents.