[Abernathy]

To say nothing of “If you would pursue peace, prepare for war” .

Not sure who said it. Might have been Enoch Powell. Or Frankie Howerd.

[Oboogie]

To say nothing of “If you would pursue peace, prepare for war” .

Not sure who said it. Might have been Enoch Powell. Or Frankie Howerd.

Either of those might have quoted it (and I'm pretty sure Churchill did too) but the phrase originates with Vegetius in his 4th century Roman military manual.

[Andy McDandy]

Daniel Craig in Layer Cake.

[The Weeping Angel]

Ha ha ha ha.

What's the biggest power in NATO? Any developments there recently that might call into question the readiness of that power to defend Europe?

The Green Party are waffling pretty spectacularly too.

Green party urges government to boost aid spending as means of avoiding international conflict
The Green party has described the strategic defence review as too militaristic, and urged the government to focus more on development. In a statement, Ellie Chowns, who speaks on defence matters for the party in the Commons, said:

Security is not just based on arms expenditure and threats, but on real leadership that uses diplomacy and development too. There must be a real commitment to an international order based on human rights, equality and genuine cooperation.
To avoid the horrors of war and armed conflict, we need to look at the deeper causes of insecurity, including poverty and climate breakdown. This is why the Green party strongly supports the restoration of the international aid budget to at least 0.7% of GNI. And we will continue to argue that real patriotism means ending UK-made weapons or components being sold to dictators, human rights abusers or for use against civilians anywhere in the world.
The prime minister has talked up the boost to jobs and the economy through increased defence expenditure, but there are many more jobs to be created in the clean, green - and peaceful - economy, a sector growing four times faster than the rest of the economy. This is where the government’s focus for investment should b

I'm surprised she didn't propose hitting Russia with a major, and I mean major leaflet campaign.*

*That's a Red Dwarf reference.

[Youngian]

Security is not just based on arms expenditure and threats, but on real leadership that uses diplomacy and development too.

Threatening military hardware backing you up does wonders for leadership and diplomacy.

[Oboogie]

I'm surprised she didn't propose hitting Russia with a major, and I mean major leaflet campaign.*

Are Greens permitted to criticise Putin?

[mattomac]

Another betrayal….

[Boiler]

Has this been posted before? I know people who question the independence of "fact checking" organisations, but:

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

[Tubby Isaacs]

Security is not just based on arms expenditure and threats, but on real leadership that uses diplomacy and development too.

Threatening military hardware backing you up does wonders for leadership and diplomacy.

Yeah, especially in the context of other countries threatening your allies.

I think this stuff is going to be a real problem for the Greens. Ellie Chowns is floundering here, God knows what happens if the Zack Polanski wing start making all the decisions.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I was referring to this being done by the government because of Reform.

Think they're probably prepared to borrow more for investment because of immediate pressure from Reform. I hope they don't overdo that because I do see a risk.

[Bones McCoy]

To say nothing of “If you would pursue peace, prepare for war” .

Not sure who said it. Might have been Enoch Powell. Or Frankie Howerd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum