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By Tubby Isaacs
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Boiler wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:39 am Sometimes I get the impression Monbiot wouldn't be happy unless we were a solely agrarian economy and lived a de-industrialised 17th century lifestyle.

WTF is "inclusive, low-impact travel" anyway? Accessible horse-drawn omnibuses?
It's a very odd phrase. You'd expect him to say public transport, but he may be anticipating a lot of people BTL pointing out that HS2 is public transport, and so are all the lines that full HS2 would relieve.

I think it would be a mistake to base climate change policy on not traveling. Any government trying to do that will get killed on "hypocrisy" grounds, fair or not.
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By Yug
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Boiler wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:39 am

WTF is "inclusive, low-impact travel" anyway? Accessible horse-drawn omnibuses?
Cycle rickshaws? Seventeenth Century Dutch-style horse-drawn barge buses? (We've got rivers and canals.)

I used to have a lot of respect for Monbiot, but lately he's been reinventing himself as a crank.
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By Andy McDandy
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Stuff that he enjoys, is going where he wants to go, and isn't in his way.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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I don't get how people strongly in favour of immigration, like Monbiot, can also adopt the position that we don't need to built a load more new stuff to meet the demand.

Even without the population boom, the idea that we've somehow got the right amount of roads already is a load of nonsense. There's not to my knowledge been a population boom in Merthyr, Neath and Blaenau Gwent. but the A465 upgrade is still an excellent project. People in South Wales travel long distances for work, and lots of them will now have to spend less time doing it and probably be safer too.
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