[Samanfur]

If Fergie is still the Duchess of York will she remain so?

No, she loses that title but their children retain the title of Princess.

They lose that if he loses the title of Prince, as well. Which Virginia Giuffre's brother is pushing for.

[kreuzberger]

If Fergie is still the Duchess of York will she remain so?

No, she loses that title but their children retain the title of Princess.

They lose that if he loses the title of Prince, as well. Which Virginia Giuffre's brother is pushing for.

So, could Virginia Giuffre's brother get a His Dukiness and a jacket with all the sparkly medals? Is there a Go Fund Me?

[Watchman]

Apparently Nonce is still a Prince because he is the child of the monarch

[Samanfur]

The King could remove it if he wanted to. That's how Elizabeth II removed it from the Duke of Sussex.

[Abernathy]

And another thing. For fuck’s sake, would the BBC stop saying “we should say that Prince Andrew denies any wrongdoing”.

No,you shouldn’t. we know he denies it all, and we know he is fucking lying. Just report it, and fucking leave it, you sycophantic twats.

Libel laws. Also - as you in particular are very fond of pointing out - whatever happened to "presumed innocent until proven guilty"?

I don’t think it’s libellous not to mention that someone who has been the subject of allegations denies them, is it?
And as for being presumed innocent until proven guilty, well there’s no prospect of him being proven to be guilty, because he paid Virginia Giuffre 12 million quid of his mammy’s dosh to go away.

[Abernathy]

Strikes me that King Chaz, Queen Camilla, Prince Willie, and virtually the entirety of the rest of the royal family (bar the ridiculous “Fergie” and her two dimwit daughters) must surely by now be convinced that, for all his endlessly repeated catch-all denials of “any wrongdoing”, Andrew is as guilty as hell of the accusations of sexual abuse levelled against him by the late Virginia Giuffre. Their cogitations about what the fuck to do about it must occupy a fair bit of their time.

I suppose that King Chaz can’t just come out and publicly announce that yes, his brother is a disgusting paedo and that he is therefore immediately banished by monarchical decree to a garden shed on Rockall(but he could in the good ‘ol days, eh ?), but the more he and Prince Willie obfuscate, prevaricate, and dissemble, the more it seems that yes, the bugger is guilty for sure. If Chaz and Willie were really convinced of Andrew’s innocence , wouldn’t they come out publicly fighting his corner and rebutting the allegations ? To my knowledge, they’ve done nothing of the kind. Ever.

[satnav]

I think that it is interesting that he was trying to squirrel away some of his cash back in 2003 by paying rent in advance for the royal lodge. This would suggest that even back then he knew that one day somebody would be chasing after him for damages.

[Watchman]

I’m surprised that the Express hasn’t come up with the headline - “Biggest Royal Crisis Since The Abdication”.