[davidjay]

You read that certain programmes are "gripping the nation" then see they get an audience of about three million. Even if that's trebled by subsequent viewing it's still only on a par with a regular episode of Crossroads fifty years ago.

[soulboy]

I've watched the celebrity version, having avoided previous "civilian" versions.

To give it a positive spin, it is a shining example of the technical skills that make compelling TV. A hat tip to the editors and producers who have worked their magic, despite the obvious flaws in the format. I never thought a Joe Marler/Nick Mohammed bromance would be a thing but it has been fascinating to watch the detective duo go to work while everyone else is flailing around. Disposable but fun.

[Abernathy]

Yes, all the Hammer horror melodramatic bullshit is ridiculous, but kind of fun.

One thing puzzles me : presumably, the “Traitors” have to get up in the middle of the feckin’ night to go to the turret and decide who’s going to get “murdered” next. How do they do that without getting noticed by anybody else?

Presumably, they’re all locked up for the night in individual cells/rooms ?

[Malcolm Armsteen]

What is this 'traitors' of which you speak? Is my miserable existence the poorer for never having heard of it?

[Abernathy]

It’s the final episode tonight. Watch it - you’ll soon pick it up.

[satnav]

I've only watched a bit of it but because I'm desperate for topical material for the Gold TV Cracker competition I might just watch the final episode purely for research purposes.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

It’s the final episode tonight. Watch it - you’ll soon pick it up.

I'm good, thanks.

[Abernathy]

15 minutes in and I’m changing my mind. Finding all the tedious sturm und drang between the remaining celebs about who’s a bad yin and who isn’t rather tedious. .

[Abernathy]

One thing puzzles me : presumably, the “Traitors” have to get up in the middle of the feckin’ night to go to the turret and decide who’s going to get “murdered” next. How do they do that without getting noticed by anybody else?

Presumably, they’re all locked up for the night in individual cells/rooms ?

I googled. Seems they are all taken individually and blindfold to the local Marriott hotel, kept there overnight, and are then brought separately and in isolation back to the castle in the morning, when the “murdered” faithful doesn’t get breakfast.

[Boiler]

The BBC: "100% Fake Nooz", according to Press Secretary Barbie...

[The Weeping Angel]

Tim Davie has resigned.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Excellent. But can the BBC Board just put someone equally bad in the post?

[Tubby Isaacs]

This is actually mad though. The Director General has to resign because Trump and his UK media supporters have kicked off about it?

[The Weeping Angel]

Excellent. But can the BBC Board just put someone equally bad in the post?

Nandy needs to put pressure on them over this.

[Oboogie]

This'll enrage the ban the "Lefty BBC" mob, Tim Davie was appointed by Boris Johnson.

[Abernathy]

Well, you have to say that the BBC’s directors general are pretty good at carrying the can and resigning when something goes wrong. A damned sight better than Tory ministers, Prime or otherwise.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Excellent. But can the BBC Board just put someone equally bad in the post?

Nandy needs to put pressure on them over this.

Does she have any role in this? Looks like the BBC Board do it. Which includes Robbie Gibb, admittedly, but also Muriel Gray.

[Tubby Isaacs]

For all the talk that Labour should "sort out the BBC". there's only been one place on the board which has come up since they won the election, and the appointee looks reasonably Labour-friendly. There are about 6 more in the next year, and it'll be interesting to see what happens there. Perhaps Davie's position has come up a bit soon.

[Rosvanian]

Another easy victory for the massed ranks of the right, the BBC's days are shrinking fast.

[Abernathy]

From The “I” newspaper :

The BBC was right about Capitol riots
Ever since Donald Trump retook the White House in January, his team has been at war with the US media – and it’s a war Team Trump just keeps on winning.
Now it seems that some in Trump’s camp have the BBC in their sights. After an internal report by a former member of the BBC Standards Committee accused the corporation of dishonest editing in a ‘Panorama’ documentary about 6 January, Donald Trump Jr blasted the public broadcaster as “THE FAKE NEWS reporters”.
The controversy centres around how the BBC edited a speech Trump gave to demonstrators immediately before they marched on the Capitol – some of them armed, and equipped with cable ties and other material.
Many went on to invade the Capitol building itself. Federal investigators found the violence had been premeditated, for some, and that disaster had only been narrowly averted because of the evacuation of lawmakers to safe rooms. The unrest was connected to five deaths.
The key accusation is that the BBC showed the US President saying: “We’re gonna walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be with you, and we fight. We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not gonna have a country any more.”
This was spliced together from three different parts of a longer speech. The author of the internal report – which is not an official BBC document – objects to this editing, in part because Trump also said at one point that the marchers should “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
The full speech is available online. Trump repeatedly tells the crowd the election was stolen and that Congress needed to be pressured to change the result. He clearly tells the crowd to “fight like hell”, despite having briefly told them to be “peaceful”.
In the following hours, thousands of people tried to overthrow the election in a violent clash. Trump faced impeachment over the riots – and in any sane world would have faced jail.
But now Trump has won, history has been rewritten. Whoever wrote that report, seen by ‘The Daily Telegraph’, is malign or mistaken. The BBC didn’t get 6 January wrong. It should be brave enough to say so.