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									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 7:32 pm
					by satnav
					The Clacton on Sea story is a little bit odd because it is suggesting that the majority of voters will support him regardless of which party he represents or what his manifesto commitments are.  I personally think he will bottle it and not stand at the general election.  He has very little to gain by standing in the election and quite alot to lose.  On the back of his 'I'm a Celebrity' stint he can keep kidding broadcasters that he is really popular and worthy of plenty of well paid media gigs, but if he stands for election and trails in third or fourth suddenly he is shown to be fairly unpopular.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:31 pm
					by Andy McDandy
					Also, he's a campaigner, not an administrator. And by campaign, I mean it in the sense of glad handing a few friendly faces and avoiding anyone who might take issue with him.
Can you really imagine him in a draughty community centre listening to local people complaining about their bins?
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:20 pm
					by Bones McCoy
					Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:31 pm
Also, he's a campaigner, not an administrator. And by campaign, I mean it in the sense of glad handing a few friendly faces and avoiding anyone who might take issue with him.
Can you really imagine him in a draughty community centre listening to local people complaining about their bins?
Bins! That's nothing, did you hear about my Coutts bank account?
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:38 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Laura fucking Loomer. As Sunder Katwala says, Reform would be expected to kick out someone with Loomer's views.
And is Donald Trump popular in Clacton? Nationalism doesn't always translated well across countries.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 4:51 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					I see Richard Tice is getting it in the neck from cranks on Twitter because of his support for Ukraine. I don't know if they're indicative of the party base.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:30 pm
					by mattomac
					If he ran in Clayton I’m pretty sure Labour would end up winning the seat.
And this is the seat that was one of about five that favoured Sunak over Starmer.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:50 pm
					by Youngian
					Old Labour favourite from the haddock hitting thread. Sleazy sex pest and dodgy BTL landlord, of course he’s a Reform candidate.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:37 pm
					by Philip Marlow
					Given Danczuk’s prior sexting escapades it’s going to be hilarious if he decides to go big on grooming gangs during the campaign.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:24 pm
					by satnav
					The Reform Party is proving to be a real magnet for sex pests.
Reform UK accepts £10,000 from millionaire Crispin Odey who is accused of sexual harassment
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... source=nba 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:47 am
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Not just sexual harrassment he's accused of, but sexual assault too.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:54 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Worth reading the attachments. It's unlike anything I've ever seen in this country, even from Miriam Cates.
Say what you like about Richard Tice, at least he knows that he won't fire this small town Mississippi stuff at you.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:05 pm
					by davidjay
					Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:54 pm
Worth reading the attachments. It's unlike anything I've ever seen in this country, even from Miriam Cates.
Say what you like about Richard Tice, at least he knows that he won't fire this small town Mississippi stuff at you.
Y'all.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:23 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Reform a fairly distant third in Clacton, which is likely their best constituency anywhere.
That could change, and Farage  would probably increase that- provided he doesn't get hammered for his Putin bollocks. But the nationwide share they've been said to have now looks dubious.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:21 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Of course, Farage might not even try.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:34 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					And if he really did help wipe the Tory party out, it's safe to assume that he'd be less than popular with the ones who were still there. It's safe to assume that the Tories would become more like Reform, but it might be hard for Farage to win the leadership. In that case, would he bother?
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:38 pm
					by Bones McCoy
					I've not read the recent speculation.
Were I one of Nigel's advisers it would be something like this.
1. Steer clear of elections until everybody's forgotten about the dolphin.
2. Carry on with the GB News, and all the BBC invites, and scratch every available grievance.
3. Stand somewhere red-wall-ish when the Tories next look like winning.
Were I advising Nigel it'd be simpler.
1. Retire and never darken our media-political complex again.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:19 pm
					by Spoonman
					Stolen from elsewhere... 

 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:40 am
					by Killer Whale
					I'm pretty sure Falange is waiting for Tory wipe-out and the chance to rejoin as the long-lost prodigal. Being at the top of the Conservative party is where the real money is.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:01 am
					by Tubby Isaacs
					You can't lead it without being an MP, and even then he'd still have to force the leader out (which isn't going to be easy whoever it is). Does he really want a stint on backbenches and in the Shadow Cabinet, doing (by his standards) proper work?
I keep contradicting myself, I realise.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:18 am
					by Killer Whale
					Yeah, I didn't mean as actual leader doing actual work, just as a kind of instant grandee. All the grift with none of the graft.