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satnav wrote: ↑Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:37 pm He was on Kuenssberg earlier and most of the clips I've seen seem to start with him saying 'I don't know'.

You mean, this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2kz127pj3o

One of the BTLs raises a good point. Nargle's a salesman and like all salesmen he doesn't know how things work, he just knows how to sell them. The same can be said for all of Reform's leaders. There's not an engineer or a mechanic between them.

He also said earlier that the government should let water companies go bust to teach their directors a lesson. The problem with this simplistic solution is that ignores the fact that over 4million people have at least part of their pension funds invested in the water companies.

The BBC are simply taking the piss now. They are being lampooned by their comedy department (Dead Ringers) but are now doubling down.

What an absolute car crash that interview was, I wonder how many of those Farage can survive?

Farage only agrees to be interrogated by softball interviewers. That's a gauntlet thrown down if you have any professional self-respect, 'Nigel reckons you're a lightweight, are you going to stand for that?'

Anyone hoping Farage is going to be grilled will be waiting a long time. The BBC in particular know that anything other than a diet of long hops and full tosses will cause a torrent of abuse to be launched in their direction and that's a battle they don't want to fight.

And he knows how to deflect. Blame the interviewer for picking on him and asking nasty questions. Deny saying what you clearly said. Wait for the interviewer to get back on track. Make wild "you know what I'm talking about" insinuations, nothing actionable though. Claim you're just saying what others are thinking. Run the clock down, and just as things are wrapping up, do "And I'll tell you what..." followed by something outrageous that they can't question you about.

It's like he bought Twattery for Dummies and he's going through it step by step.

Sounds a bit “tribute act”, I wonder who.

davidjay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 21, 2025 10:10 am Anyone hoping Farage is going to be grilled will be waiting a long time. The BBC in particular know that anything other than a diet of long hops and full tosses will cause a torrent of abuse to be launched in their direction and that's a battle they don't want to fight.

Rupert Lowe still whining about an interview months ago with subversive Marxist Emily Maitliss. Michael Gove showing the correct deference that far right spivs who fancy themselves as politicians, should be addressed.

Nigel Farage says Reform would spend over £17bn to halve UK crime
Party leader says plans, including deportations and new prisons, would be paid for by scrapping HS2 and net zero

I thought the scrapped Net Zero was already paying for tax cuts?

As ever, complete failure to distinguish between capital and revenue. Or do you just spend this money on reducing crime once and it stays low forever? On the plus side, we might get some bullshit HS2 alternative policy soon. I could do with a laugh.

Here's how tough he is on crime.

Defending people who had joined violent demonstrations outside an asylum hotel in Essex, he said: “I don’t think anybody in London even understands just how close we are to civil disobedience.”

Pure comedy.

“People will be tried in this country and El Salvador may be quite an extreme example. But the idea that we could send prisoners to Kosovo, to Estonia is a very, very serious proposal,” he said.

Why does Estonia want to host a load of British criminals? It's growing well enough already.

Farage said successive home secretaries had contributed to a deterioration in public trust over crime and created conditions that were “nothing short of societal collapse”. “People are scared of going to the shops. Scared to let their kids out. That is a society that is degraded. And it’s happening very, very rapidly,” he said.

This is like the rubbish Arthur Daley used to spout at Chisholm when he was being investigated for handling stolen goods.

At a press conference in London, Farage pledged to force councils run by Reform to host new prisons “if they’re the right locations” and to recruit a “higher and physically tougher” standard of police officers.

Man in the pub bollocks. How much of what the Police actually do is about taking down physically imposing people? And the ones we have already are actually pretty good at diving in and nicking people for drunken fights. Women officers (shock) are often very good at challenging violent criminals, better than some of Nige's glorified bouncers will be.

Didn't he also say that the pissed-up cunts were 'concerned families'?

I expect so. Plus a pass for not being from "London".

I lose track. Is London some fancy place where you're ignorant of social problems, or basically St Louis, Missouri?

All that seems to translate to is "round up the wogs and hairies and ship 'em out".

It's a foetid shithole, apparently...

People are scared of going to the shops. Scared to let their kids out.

Reform-supporting anti-social drivers have done that. What's his policy on 20mph, again?

Reform has no viable policies, Only broad-brush populist bollocks. I don't actually think that Farage is capable of any sort of sustained coherency of any kind on policy.

He is clearly envisaging a run to number ten modelled very closely on Trump's second ascension to the White House - no real policy detail, unsustainable promises, populist rabble rousing and "common sense".

But I don't think he can pull it off. The UK is not, politically, the same as the USA, and he will come unstuck.

The template for Reform MPs seems to be the "belligerent argumentative cunt" one, if that Pochin woman is anything to go by. She was on The Daily Politics having her BS dismantled by Danny Finkelstein and a Scots (I think SNP) guy, and she was deeply unpleasant - interrupting, talking over others, raising her voice. A thoroughly awful woman.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:13 pm It's a foetid shithole, apparently...

And simultaneously a privileged bubble isolated from the harsh realities of.. Epping.

Make it make sense.

More likely that Epping (especially Debden) has always had these awful people in it.

Britain does seem to lead Europe in what we might call "know-nothing know-it-alls". Thick, uninformed, cynical, don't need to be told anything because they're all the same, no bloody good the lot of 'em, just get a man in to sort it out.

I'm aware every country on Earth produces them, but we're among the few places that pander to them.

France hasn't done Brexit (it couldn't really, being in the Euro, even Le pen had to drop that rubbish) but it's not in a good place with populism either. Any attempt at getting the deficit down is unthinkable. Might be a problem for the whole Eurozone before too long.