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Special shout out to Mark Seddon for playing the Ukranians are all Nazis card.

The last few days have shown just how little Reform members actually know about how local government works. Yesterday the chairman of Reform was banging on about Housing yet most of last weeks elections were for country councillors who have no responsibility for Housing. Andrea Jenkyns was promising to cut post that don't actually exist and all the shit about flying flags is again not something county councils have much say over.

It takes a super special brain to say 'What does Ukraine have to do with the Red Army'.

RedSparrows wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 10:10 pm It takes a super special brain to say 'What does Ukraine have to do with the Red Army'.

Alied forces during the Battle of Berlin were:
* Georgy Zukhov's 1st Belorussian Front.
* Ivan Konev's 1st Ukrainian Front.
* Stanislav Poplavsky's 1st and 2nd Polish Armies.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 9:41 pm Special shout out to Mark Seddon for playing the Ukranians are all Nazis card.

Ah, the 'Galizien' card.

This from a chap called Billy Geddes, posted on the Faeces book :
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Council Estate Socialism
Billy Geddes · May 2 at 10:09 PM ·

𝗡𝗶𝗴𝗲𝗹 𝗙𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗴𝗲: 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝗕𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻'𝘀 𝗚𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗕𝗲𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘆𝗮𝗹.
Nigel Farage presents himself as a political outsider, a man of the people, pint in hand, rallying the nation to "take back control." But peel back the layers of manufactured charisma and populist bluster, and you’ll find something far more calculated, elitist, and damaging. Farage wasn’t just a player in Britain’s political drama — he was a frontman for one of the most significant bait-and-switch operations in modern UK history.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙋𝙪𝙥𝙥𝙚𝙩 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙃𝙞𝙨 𝙈𝙖𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙨:
Farage’s success wasn’t born from grassroots rage. It was bankrolled by millionaires and hedge fund managers with one primary concern: the growing threat of EU regulations on financial transparency. The EU was moving toward mandatory disclosure of beneficial ownership, tighter corporate tax laws, and cross-border cooperation that would have exposed Britain’s offshore tax havens. The very wealthy were running scared — and Farage offered them a lifeline.
Enter Arron Banks, the multimillionaire insurance tycoon with opaque finances and offshore dealings. Add to the mix a network of hedge funders; libertarian think tanks and tax haven defenders. Farage became their man — a “rebel” with a tailored script.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙈𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙖 𝙀𝙣𝙜𝙞𝙣𝙚:
Farage’s rise would not have been possible without the mainstream media. The BBC, desperate for "balance," handed him dozens of appearances on Question Time. The right-wing press — Telegraph, Mail, Express — turned him into a household name. LBC gave him his own radio show. GB News now serves as his echo chamber.
Why? Because outrage sells. Farage was clickbait personified. He delivered ratings, controversy, and headlines while reinforcing the interests of media barons who shared his disdain for Brussels’ oversight.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙏𝙤𝙧𝙮 𝙎𝙮𝙢𝙗𝙞𝙤𝙨𝙞𝙨:
Farage’s relationship with the Conservative Party was never straightforward. Publicly, he was their enemy. Privately, he was their pressure valve. His threat to Tory votes — especially in marginal, working-class areas — forced Cameron to offer the Brexit referendum. Later, in 2019, he stood down Brexit Party candidates in Tory seats, helping Boris Johnson win a landslide.
In return, the Tories absorbed Farage’s playbook wholesale: anti-immigration, anti-Europe, pro-privatisation, and pro-deregulation. Farage didn’t just influence policy — he reshaped the party from outside.

𝙍𝙚𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙢 𝙐𝙆: 𝙍𝙚𝙗𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙍𝙤𝙩:
Post-Brexit, Farage didn’t retire. He rebranded. Reform UK emerged as the next vehicle for his populist project. Now he rails against Net Zero, attacks trans rights, and blames every national failure on "woke elites" and illegal migrants. The messaging hasn’t changed — just the targets.
Reform UK isn’t about reform. It’s about keeping the anger alive while ensuring the same elite class stays untouchable. It’s The Brexit Party 2.0 — the cultural sequel.

𝘼 𝙂𝙡𝙤𝙗𝙖𝙡 𝙋𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙖 𝙉𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙡 𝙏𝙧𝙖𝙜𝙚𝙙𝙮:
Farage’s ambitions didn’t stop at Dover. He aligned himself with Donald Trump, spoke at MAGA rallies, and worked with Steve Bannon to build a transatlantic alliance of right-wing populists. His influence stretched into the American culture war, feeding the same lies about immigration, globalism, and democracy.
He positioned himself as a British Trump, a warrior against "the deep state." But the reality was that he was always defending entrenched power, never fighting it.

𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙒𝙤𝙧𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜-𝘾𝙡𝙖𝙨𝙨 𝘽𝙚𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙮𝙖𝙡:
Farage’s greatest deception wasn’t what he said — it was who he claimed to represent. Working-class voters, especially in post-industrial towns, were sold a revolution. They got deregulation, rising costs, weakened rights, and a divided society. The rich got richer. The people got slogans.
Farage played the role of rebel, but his loyalties were always to the elite — the same ones hiding money offshore, lobbying against transparency, and laughing behind the curtain. At the same time, the public turned on each other.

𝙇𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙘𝙮 𝙤𝙛 𝙍𝙪𝙞𝙣:
Today, Britain is more divided, isolated, and less secure than ever in recent history. Farage didn’t do it alone, but his fingerprints are on every broken promise, every shuttered factory, and every food bank queue.
He weaponised nostalgia. He distorted democracy. He convinced the nation to burn down the house, then walked away with the matches in his pocket.

Farage is not an outsider. He is the inside man of a very elite con — and the bill is now due.

Big like.

Springtime for Nigel

Oh, just fuck off, Tice and your band of dinosaurs.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -jobs-risk

In Greater Lincolnshire, net zero industries contribute about £980m to the local economy, accounting for 12,209 jobs, according to analysis by the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (ECIU).

Tice said: “We will attack, we will hinder, we will delay, we will obstruct, we will put every hurdle in your way. It’s going to cost you a fortune, and you’re not going to win. So give up and go away.”

The Reform mayor for Lincolnshire, Andrea Jenkyns, as well as the county council, which is also controlled by the rightwing party, would be able to block and delay renewable projects, experts said.

Jenkyns has claimed carbon dioxide is “not pollution”, called for the “ditching” of net zero and declared that Lincolnshire will “not be a dumping ground for pylons”, as well as campaigning against solar farms.

'Foreigners can't take our jobs if we don't have any' might well be the logic of someone who votes Tice and Jenkyns into power.

I do wonder if some of Lincolnshire's residents would be happier living in splendid isolation in unheated cottages lit by oil lamps and walking everywhere, as long as the Lincoln Green is undisturbed.

Yes. We must fight at all costs the industrialisation of such gems as, er, Immingham and Scunthorpe.

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 7:50 pm Yes. We must fight at all costs the industrialisation of such gems as, er, Immingham and Scunthorpe.

To this soul, Scunthorpe = steelworks, Immingham = docks and where trains go to die.

Boiler wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 7:46 pm I do wonder if some of Lincolnshire's residents would be happier living in splendid isolation in unheated cottages lit by oil lamps and walking everywhere, as long as the Lincoln Green is undisturbed.

And the forrins go back where they came from.

It's going well so far.

Would be nice to have some references for these. I'd like to share, but I'm not going down the 'I saw it on the internet' route.

The expelled councillor - one Donna Edmunds - is known to me via a brief relationship with a mate many, many years ago (it was over v. quickly as multiple alarm bells went off).

She’s now been expelled from the Tories, UKIP and Reform for such things as attacking a cancer patient and rampant homophobia, via a stint in Israel writing bollocks for the Jerusalem Times and Breitbart, and various grifts. Not least of which being her offloading her seriously disabled child onto her mum while she went globe-trotting, an attempt to get married off to an Indian prince on a reality show, and her tapping my mate to pay for her child. To be clear, he isn’t the father and they’d broken up long before - she just asked him to do the moral thing and support her. Moral here being shorthand for ‘pay for me because I don’t intend to do anything as crass and common as work’.

Truly one of the most selfish, lazy, bigoted people you could come across.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2qxr79gdo

“Significant recent changes to his personal life”…

Are these getting elected as a councillor?

Farage runs the party like a cult.

Always with the mis-spellings - Gammons.

mattomac wrote: ↑Thu May 08, 2025 9:13 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2qxr79gdo

“Significant recent changes to his personal life”…

Are these getting elected as a councillor?

Paper candidate getting out before things get too serious.

Meanwhile:

https://news.sky.com/story/reform-wont- ... s-13363164

Reform UK is not suspending a newly elected councillor who has been criticised for sharing a now-deleted Adolf Hitler meme on social media.

Councillor Joel Tetlow is under fire after he posted a picture of the Nazi leader on Facebook, overlooking a map of Europe with an apparent reference to small boats crossing the Channel.