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Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 5:22 pm
by Boiler
:shock: Asexuality never looked more attractive.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:11 pm
by Boiler
Here's another charmer: GB News urged to cut ties with contributor accused of racism

The comments by Lucy White, a rightwing activist, have drawn criticism from across the political spectrum amid warnings that explicitly racist language is becoming increasingly normalised in British life.

White, described as a public policy expert during appearances on GB News and Rupert Murdoch’s TalkTV, said on her X account on Wednesday: “Today, the Deputy Speaker presiding over the Budget Statement in the UK House of Commons is Nus Ghani.

“Nus Ghani was born in Kashmir, Pakistan. There should not be a single person born in Pakistan in the UK House of Commons.”

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:17 pm
by Oboogie
davidjay wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:55 am The bishop himself.

George Galloway has acquired a new silly hat and a horse, I see.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:21 pm
by Youngian
If Nusrat Ghani was the deputy speaker I heard on the radio ticking off a noisy Tory MP by telling him she expected better, she's a rising star to watch.

The idea that the sewer that is GBN should sack a contributor for racism is an odd one, which ones aren't?

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 8:12 pm
by Bones McCoy
Oboogie wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:17 pm
davidjay wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:55 am The bishop himself.

George Galloway has acquired a new silly hat and a horse, I see.
He's also relocated Stonehenge, possibly synchronising its timing with Big Ben.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 9:00 pm
by Andy McDandy
Youngian wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:21 pm If Nusrat Ghani was the deputy speaker I heard on the radio ticking off a noisy Tory MP by telling him she expected better, she's a rising star to watch.

The idea that the sewer that is GBN should sack a contributor for racism is an odd one, which ones aren't?
Minor minister under May and Truss. Fired for being too brown by Johnson. Rather hawt, despite being a Brexit fan. Serious Cobra Baroness vibes.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 5:30 pm
by Boiler
Rupert Lowe has set up a new party: Great Yarmouth First.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2025 7:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Good take here from Stephen Bush. Why is the Right so miserable? There's tons of traditional " white British" stuff to do. Does Ed get pissed off at indie gigs if there's a black bloke on the door?


Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 9:06 am
by davidjay
They're miserable because they hate everything except themselves. They even hate each other on a scale that makes Your Party look like New Labour.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:56 am
by Tubby Isaacs
And I don't think they like anything very much. Do they even like visiting stately homes, or is their interest in that only a culture war thing? What does that leave? Military history? What?

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:02 am
by Boiler
Culture war. That is all.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:08 am
by Tubby Isaacs
I can remember this attitude being there with Daily Telegraph types many years ago, culture as a sense of superiority. But they had the free market as well at that time, as something they argued positively for. What do they have now?

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:16 am
by Tubby Isaacs
One of my favourite posters on the Guardian BTL posted this.

The best way to protect your culture is to go out and do the cultural things you like.

For England: join in church raffle to raise funds to fix the roof, go to the village fete, teach your children to cook traditional English food, support bands playing in your local pub, watch the local cricket team, watch the am drams, go to the panto, take up moris dancing, whatever you think is good about English culture. Similar for Scotland.

Don’t just complain that other people have cultures they want to celebrate. You’ll probably find a lot of immigrants want to experience English/Scottish culture as well as their own.
Ed West is London-focussed, and doubtless not particularly hard up. How much is there in London that he could go and support? As Stephen Bush says, go to Wigmore Hall.

I remember Darcus Howe talking to some white British people in a pub, and playfully observing that while their baguettes looked nice, what was wrong with the traditional English ploughman's lunch? If you think this sort of stuff matters, which I don't really, it's not immigrants that forced the change to baguettes.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:32 pm
by davidjay
It seems to me that the 'patriots' who talk about saving British culture hate the things about Britain that outsiders revere - Parliamentary democracy, the NHS, police, BBC, RNLI, National Trust.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:23 pm
by RedSparrows
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:16 am One of my favourite posters on the Guardian BTL posted this.

The best way to protect your culture is to go out and do the cultural things you like.

For England: join in church raffle to raise funds to fix the roof, go to the village fete, teach your children to cook traditional English food, support bands playing in your local pub, watch the local cricket team, watch the am drams, go to the panto, take up moris dancing, whatever you think is good about English culture. Similar for Scotland.

Don’t just complain that other people have cultures they want to celebrate. You’ll probably find a lot of immigrants want to experience English/Scottish culture as well as their own.
Ed West is London-focussed, and doubtless not particularly hard up. How much is there in London that he could go and support? As Stephen Bush says, go to Wigmore Hall.

I remember Darcus Howe talking to some white British people in a pub, and playfully observing that while their baguettes looked nice, what was wrong with the traditional English ploughman's lunch? If you think this sort of stuff matters, which I don't really, it's not immigrants that forced the change to baguettes.
That traditional ploughman's that was 'codified' post WW2, etc etc etc.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:40 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:08 am I can remember this attitude being there with Daily Telegraph types many years ago, culture as a sense of superiority. But they had the free market as well at that time, as something they argued positively for. What do they have now?
The good old free market that’s bought us consumerised off the shelf cultural choice and appropriation.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:41 pm
by Bones McCoy
davidjay wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:32 pm It seems to me that the 'patriots' who talk about saving British culture hate the things about Britain that outsiders revere - Parliamentary democracy, the NHS, police, BBC, RNLI, National Trust.
It's remabkable to reflect how that list has grown as the haters have grown more and more extreme.
Would Thatcher, or even Tebbit have denounced any of that list (except perhaps the NHS)?

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:44 pm
by Bones McCoy
RedSparrows wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:23 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:16 am One of my favourite posters on the Guardian BTL posted this.

The best way to protect your culture is to go out and do the cultural things you like.

For England: join in church raffle to raise funds to fix the roof, go to the village fete, teach your children to cook traditional English food, support bands playing in your local pub, watch the local cricket team, watch the am drams, go to the panto, take up moris dancing, whatever you think is good about English culture. Similar for Scotland.

Don’t just complain that other people have cultures they want to celebrate. You’ll probably find a lot of immigrants want to experience English/Scottish culture as well as their own.
Ed West is London-focussed, and doubtless not particularly hard up. How much is there in London that he could go and support? As Stephen Bush says, go to Wigmore Hall.

I remember Darcus Howe talking to some white British people in a pub, and playfully observing that while their baguettes looked nice, what was wrong with the traditional English ploughman's lunch? If you think this sort of stuff matters, which I don't really, it's not immigrants that forced the change to baguettes.
That traditional ploughman's that was 'codified' post WW2, etc etc etc.
We've covered this with folk songs.
First sheet music doesn't fix the date of composition.
First appearance on pub menu doesn't imply it wasn't a popular snack.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
RedSparrows wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:23 pm
That traditional ploughman's that was 'codified' post WW2, etc etc etc.
I didn't know it was that recent. But I thought Darcus had point about it. If I were writing for the Telegraph, I'd seek to trace it back to someone in London, preferably French. Who elected the Baguette Police? That sort of thing.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 3:40 pm
The good old free market that’s bought us consumerised off the shelf cultural choice and appropriation.
As Ian Gilmour said of Thatcherites, the market ruled until it didn't want a Thatcherite product. Thatcher-Major did actually make a fairly sensible accommodation with public opinion on the NHS that mostly neutralized the issue until people got fed up with everything being run down,