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More Tory defections to Reform won't harm Labour and the Tories doubling down chasing Farage will help the LD middle England fortunes. Unless the Tories did the sane thing by electing a moderate leader to recapture the centre ground. They're not, are they?

satnav wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:45 pm
BBC news claimed that he was the first sitting Tory MP to defect to Reform but I thought that honour went to party hopping f**k wit Lee Anderson.

Anderson jumped ship in the last parliament. I think Auntie means that Kruger is the first Tory weirdo to do so in this parliament.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:34 pm

satnav wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:45 pm
BBC news claimed that he was the first sitting Tory MP to defect to Reform but I thought that honour went to party hopping f**k wit Lee Anderson.

Anderson jumped ship in the last parliament. I think Auntie means that Kruger is the first Tory weirdo to do so in this parliament.

The BBC are correct, Anderson was suspended at the time so sitting as an independent.

At this rate, the entire Reform UK “Party” will soon be populated entirely by has-been nutjob former Tories (including, of course, Farage himself).

That a sufficient proportion of the electorate can be assessed as being willing to buy into this fucking hateful wank, and that UK news media can be talking in all apparent seriousness about that cunt Farage being the next Prime Minister simply beggars belief.

Polly Toynbee must surely be right, I think, to assert that Labour’s primary mission henceforward is to save the country from Farage, both directly and indirectly.

Eventually, if it keeps on at this rate, there is going to be a massive clash of ego, or a beer-hall Putsch that gets rid of Farage

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Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 15, 2025 6:59 pm That a sufficient proportion of the electorate can be assessed as being willing to buy into this fucking hateful wank, and that UK news media can be talking in all apparent seriousness about that cunt Farage being the next Prime Minister simply beggars belief.

The whole of the media is positively creaming itself over the prospect of a Reform Government. It's a bit like cheering on the Bullingdon set smashing up a restaurant, only this time it's a whole country. They actively want this to happen to justify their existence.

Oh, for the days when TV news was just read by a newsreader and there was no tedious analysis of the headline by wankers...

It won't harm Labour provided the media (and lots of people in Labour) stop doing their "Farage is inevitable" thing.

If Labour scrape back in and Reform have a good showing, invite Farage into government to walk the walk. Low immigration presents formidable economic problems to overcome. Let him devise a radical economic strategy and report to the PM. He'll be out of the door in no time if he even accepts the offer.

No by-election because Kruger would have voted the same way he's going to vote for Reform, or something.

Farage will still be on "one in, one out" at the next election. Or perhaps adopting Cameron's "plan" (soundbite) of "tens of thousands".

Conflating Reform with Tommeh's thugs, good move. Farage will be livid but their relationship is symbiotic.

Maria Caulfield becomes latest former Tory MP to defect to Reform UK
Maria Caulfield, a former Tory health minister, has joined Reform UK, GB News reports. They say she is the 13th former Tory MP to switch, GB News says.

Is this coordinated, with more to come?

Tory polling is still awful but it has stabilized, despite predictions Ed Davey would be overtaking them. I wouldn't be in any hurry to jump if I was a (former) Tory MP.

Is Maria Caulfield another one of these US influenced moral majority cranks like Danny Kruger? Be interesting to see louche moral vacuums like Farage and Tice contort to their agendas.

Religious nut, opposed repeal of anti-abortion laws in NI, used to be a nurse, voted to scrap the nursing bursary, published doctored videos of Starmer implying he was soft on Asian nonces, got reprimanded by Penny Mordaunt for circulating conspiracy theories. Got booted last year.

Bit of a cunt, I guess.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:00 pm Religious nut, opposed repeal of anti-abortion laws in NI, used to be a nurse, voted to scrap the nursing bursary, published doctored videos of Starmer implying he was soft on Asian nonces, got reprimanded by Penny Mordaunt for circulating conspiracy theories. Got booted last year.

Bit of a cunt, I guess.

Standard reform material.

She does a good line in Truss-Badenoch patter too.

She has spoken about her upbringing, saying that she "grew up in a run-down area of South London where the only careers advice given to us was the phone number of the local council housing office for when you became a single mum and needed a council flat.

Wandsworth was a working class area when she was growing up, but more upwardly mobile that most working class parts of London (more like Fulham than Bethnal Green).

Who was the headmaster? Jimmy Hill?

No one cares about telling blatant fucking lies any more, do they?

It's funny how all these people who go on to have big careers in the Conservative Party had such terrible schooling, isn't it? Funny how they don't mention which party was in government too.

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:21 pm No one cares about telling blatant fucking lies any more, do they?

Journalists think state schools were all war zones until Michael Gove and Toby Young sorted them out.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:17 pm She does a good line in Truss-Badenoch patter too.

She has spoken about her upbringing, saying that she "grew up in a run-down area of South London where the only careers advice given to us was the phone number of the local council housing office for when you became a single mum and needed a council flat.

Wandsworth was a working class area when she was growing up, but more upwardly mobile that most working class parts of London (more like Fulham than Bethnal Green).

Who was the headmaster? Jimmy Hill?

She didn't go to school in London, she was educated in Lagos.
Her family lived in Wimbledon, which is hardly a walk on the wild side.
She did A Levels in Morden, see above.