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Boiler wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:23 pm Reading and listening to various USanians of late, am I alone in thinking that the Trump administration and its cronies are now making a concerted effort to portray the UK as the new enemy of the US and of its idea of "free speech" in particular?

Absolutely.

And it's handled by the press as guilelessly as 'oh they say they care about free speech they must do end of story'.

RedSparrows wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:35 pm

Boiler wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:23 pm Reading and listening to various USanians of late, am I alone in thinking that the Trump administration and its cronies are now making a concerted effort to portray the UK as the new enemy of the US and of its idea of "free speech" in particular?

Absolutely.

And it's handled by the press as guilelessly as 'oh they say they care about free speech they must do end of story'.

Trump hates Europe because the EU is powerful enough to stand up to him. The weak and isolated UK is low hanging fruit, a part of Europe he can attack with impunity because any retaliation will hurt us more than it hurts him.

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:57 pm

RedSparrows wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:35 pm

Boiler wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 3:23 pm Reading and listening to various USanians of late, am I alone in thinking that the Trump administration and its cronies are now making a concerted effort to portray the UK as the new enemy of the US and of its idea of "free speech" in particular?

Absolutely.

And it's handled by the press as guilelessly as 'oh they say they care about free speech they must do end of story'.

Trump hates Europe because the EU is powerful enough to stand up to him. The weak and isolated UK is low hanging fruit, a part of Europe he can attack with impunity because any retaliation will hurt us more than it hurts him.

The UK also speaks English.

Britain sold its arse to America in 1941, and still thinks they meant it when they said they loved us.

It depresses me massively that there are so many Americans willing to do this appalling shit apparently without question or demur, despite it being illegal, immoral or plain wrong. Truly, as a society they are finished.

I think James Ellroy was right when he said that America was never innocent, or benign. It was always a scam: kick arses and look good doing it.

I also like Bill Bryson's take on American history: they shot the bison, then they shot the natives, and then they shot each other.

Like this.

And still we believe they're our friends. America cares about America, they always have and always will.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 9:07 pmLike this.

Sad thing is... millions don't want to stop him. They're actively cheering him on and saying "and what are YOU going to do about it? Nothing. Because without us, you ARE nothing. U-S-A! U-S-A!"

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 9:19 pm America cares about America, they always have and always will.

But one that was mainly a rational state actor with a concert of allies across the globe who could rely on the US. Now its just a transactional power run by a mad man.

Boiler wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 9:52 pm

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 11, 2026 9:07 pmLike this.

Sad thing is... millions don't want to stop him. They're actively cheering him on and saying "and what are YOU going to do about it? Nothing. Because without us, you ARE nothing. U-S-A! U-S-A!"

And to those who disagree they have guns.