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This is a bit fucking rich, coming from a draft-dodging Septic:


C'mon Mother Nature, do your stuff.

He needs Ukraine drone support capacity though doesn’t he?

Did he wear a suit to ask that?

Boiler wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2026 10:29 pm This is a bit fucking rich, coming from a draft-dodging Septic:


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C'mon Mother Nature, do your stuff.

He was so grateful after Iraq and Afghanistan.

Two points in all of this sad mess need to be underlined.

1. Just because you're fighting 'bad people', that does not make you by default 'good people'.

2. Having labelled yourselves as good people, that does not mean that whatever you do is good, just because you're doing it.

Sadly, it seems there are many in the USA, ReFuck and the Tories who seem incapable of grasping these ideas.

I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well? Has everything been boiled down to this zero sum? I try to resist this thinking but it's difficult.

The death of nuance: in this digital age everything is either on or off. Analogue - with its infinite variations - seems to be dead.

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2026 3:51 pm I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well?

I’d say yes, a significant proportion of Reform voters really are bad, self-centred, and venal people. But a large proportion of them are simply very, very stupid. Of course, the Venn diagrammatic intersection between the bad and venal and the very stupid is incredibly well populated.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2026 6:09 pm

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2026 3:51 pm I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well?

I’d say yes, a significant proportion of Reform voters really are bad, self-centred, and venal people. But a large proportion of them are simply very, very stupid. Of course, the Venn diagrammatic intersection between the bad and venal and the very stupid is incredibly well populated.

The stupid ones - and they are plenty - are also bad.
Because our democratic system allows them to damage not just themselves, but the rest of us.

Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conners.

davidjay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2026 8:34 pm Compassion for the conned, contempt for the conners.

The conned still represent a threat.

I do my best to exhibit compassion.
It withers around the third time they regurgitate the latest simple minded 'bot take on events.

An interesting discussion of our right-wing media, they're not really pro Tory or Reform, they're actually MAGA! Private Eye make the case that the value to advertisers of US customers is driving editorial decisions to make UK newspapers more appealing to Americans.

Just been listening to that, a very plausible theory (that tabloid money is now in US online ads) that had passed me by. It does smell odd as apart from the Sun, the Tory press has been somewhat sceptical about Middle East adventurism. Especially when Blair supports it.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2026 10:03 pm Just been listening to that, a very plausible theory (that tabloid money is now in US online ads) that had passed me by. It does smell odd as apart from the Sun, the Tory press has been somewhat sceptical about Middle East adventurism. Especially when Blair supports it.

Really? I've heard almost universal media criticism of Starmer for his failure to get stuck into the filthy A-rabs alongside our glorious allies!

I'll rewrite the paragraph

When Middle East adventurism happened before under the Blair government the Tory press were somewhat scpetical. And weren't particularly gung ho about Libya and Syria interventionism under Cameron. Apart from the Sun, who you'd expect little better.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2026 12:33 pm I'll rewrite the paragraph

When Middle East adventurism happened before under the Blair government the Tory press were somewhat scpetical. And weren't particularly gung ho about Libya and Syria interventionism under Cameron. Apart from the Sun, who you'd expect little better.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.

I see Farage and Badenoch are both against the war, were always against the war, never supported the war.

48 hours from "What's the point in having these boats if we don't use them" to "Won't somebody think of the motorists".

Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania...


[Doublethink is the ability to simultaneously hold and believe two contradictory beliefs, a concept coined by George Orwell in his 1949 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. It is a form of cognitive dissonance used to bypass logical contradiction, allowing for the acceptance of manufactured realities.]

It seems they have reached the conclusion I did a week back, there is very little justification for this at this time and the regime would probably have collapsed in time or could easily have pushed. Plus its not worth getting close to Trump as Trump will do anything to save himself and you'll end up getting zero thanks.

They've probably just hardened its resolve, anyhow Trump is a unhinged idiot trying to distract from whatever the latest scandal is, they however catch up much like they did on Johnson. Who was ironically brought down not by his terrible handling of Covid and getting pissed at a party every night but instead by appointing a bit of a sex pest in Pincher.

With Trump its likely to be financial probably though a prostitute has been the closest to bringing him down.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2026 6:09 pm

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2026 3:51 pm I find myself pondering this sort of thing a lot. I despise Reform but does that mean everyone who votes Reform is a bad person who I should despise as well?

I’d say yes, a significant proportion of Reform voters really are bad, self-centred, and venal people. But a large proportion of them are simply very, very stupid. Of course, the Venn diagrammatic intersection between the bad and venal and the very stupid is incredibly well populated.

Polanski on his podcast speaks to Professor Keon West author of the Science of Racism. He talks about experiments that are familiar like who gets more interviews according to names on CVs.
An even more revealing experiment asks respondents if they'd rather split a tenner (a fiver each) or have £3 if the person asking has £1. Obviously its overwhelmingly the first when two white people are involved. When the questionnaire is black, there's an uptake in the second option. Yes, some people choose to be poorer as long they had more than a black person.
We know who these morons are.

Iran's supreme leader 'likely disfigured', Hegseth says

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4gqjyk0vx3t

Pisshead Pete is asploding my irony meters faster than I can order replacements.

Are there no mirrors on "the hill".
Are they suffering collective dysmorphia that can't recognise botulin paralysis.