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Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:20 pm
by Youngian
His approval ratings are far lower than previous PMs. The conspiracy fuelled vitriol I hear attached to the hatred of Keir doesn't sound rational. Its like the robotic "Brown sold the gold' mantra turned up to 11.
I'm coming to the stage where I just say leave politics to the young and old codgers like me should shut up.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Sir Keir's not bothered with a base, which can bite you on the arse if things go wrong.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:20 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Non-Dom press barons. Scared of fair taxation.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
it's funny how Labour, who are "terrified of the rightwing press", keep doing stuff like abolishing non-dom, increasing inheritance tax for the richest, and putting VAT on school fees.
They've made a reasonable attempt at raising money from shutting down these regressive anomalies. Unfortunately, that's not enough to sort stuff out properly. I don't know how big the 'raise taxes on people like me" vote is. Probably not very big, in fairness, but they might get some grudging respect for it from the markets.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 7:47 pm
by kreuzberger
Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 5:57 pm
Anybody else wondering what, precisely, are the reasons why so many people apparently dislike Keir Starmer ? I mean, he’s a pleasant enough guy. I suspect that a big part of it is quite simply that he is the Prime Minister, and Prime Ministers, generally speaking, are just not well liked.
I don't know how much he is actively disliked, rather that the government in general is not polling well. The disappointment is palpable, and the "Change" promise is not being either felt or understood.
I can however imagine that the press hate him. He put the shits up them over a possible second referendum and played a pivotal role is smelting their tin god.
For what it's worth, he seems like a nice enough bloke to me.
He also didn't go to a proper school, the oik.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:20 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 16, 2025 6:33 pm
Sir Keir's not bothered with a base, which can bite you on the arse if things go wrong.
Anti politics candidate usually refers to populist windbags but can also refer to technocratic leaders like Starmer who hate the nonsense of politics but love policies and getting the job done. That quote comes from Arnie Schwarzenegger but he’s an entertainer who could do the connecting with voters bullshit if needs must. It feels like Starmer can’t be arsed with all that bollox. Which the politically engaged don’t have a problem with but it might sink him.