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Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 5:09 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2026 2:31 pm
The DUP and Farage have reached a position there they are fairly immune to being outflanked. I think Zack might well do the same.
But Davey is having to be a sensible one at the same time as the straight talking populist. That is harder to pull off.
I've not watched Ulster for years but isn't there a TUV that's outflanking the DUP.
Meanwhile a horde of one-man grifter parties are buzzing about Nigel's right elbow.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 5:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2026 5:09 pm
I've not watched Ulster for years but isn't there a TUV that's outflanking the DUP.
Meanwhile a horde of one-man grifter parties are buzzing about Nigel's right elbow.
I was thinking about TUV, but hadn't seen the latest results (2024). They got 6.2% and won North Antrim off the DUP. So perhaps things have changed, but the DUP had a good run after going into government with Sinn Fein.
I think Farage will handle Rupert Lowe and co well enough, and a bit of distance from them might help with picking up Tory votes. He could be like Nixon in 1968, who had George Wallace making him look moderate.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 11:14 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Ed Davey is a man who speaks about the real issues affecting modern Britain.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2026 11:39 pm
by davidjay
Looking at the BTL I ask myself once more, why do people get so angry about irrelevancies?
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:33 am
by The Weeping Angel
I'd say it's more mockery rather than anger.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 6:12 am
by Youngian
Apart from drug dealers, people rarely handle banknotes. Davey had an opportunity to fill a vacuum and show what a responsible opposition leader looks like in an international crisis. But instead is acting the twat.
Even as a politics nerd I can only name 10 per cent of Lib Dem MPs. May as well be balloons on sticks with ‘not a Tory’ written on them.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 7:48 am
by Killer Whale
He has not even got his ear to the ground. I would bet that most of his target voters care a lot more about wildlife than they do about a figure that's receding fast into hazy memory.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 8:51 am
by Youngian
Churchill's funeral was a marker for a generational shift and you have to be over 70 to have a living memory of that event.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 9:03 am
by Boiler
Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 6:12 am
Apart from drug dealers, people rarely handle banknotes.
Or you're one of those GB News types like my sister, or someone like my homeless mate who defaulted on a massive credit card debt and went to ground for over six years. Lives a tax-free, cash in hand lifestyle to this day.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 9:47 am
by Bones McCoy
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2026 11:14 pm
Ed Davey is a man who speaks about the real issues affecting modern Britain.
It's a badger now?
I throught it was Beavers (Farage) or Squirrels (Badenoch).
You'd think they could find something more concrete to moan about.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 10:55 am
by Samanfur
Churchill has only been on banknotes since 2016 (there's a conspicuous lack of carping around Turing and Austen), and the subjects for the banknotes are chosen by public vote.
I thought tbat we were all about democracy?
Not like that. Oh.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:02 am
by Killer Whale
Stick a fucking Asian Hornet on there; the one the right are always using as a metaphor for 'them'.
Give the fuckers something proper to complain about and hopefully their heads will explode.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:07 am
by Boiler
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2026 11:14 pm
Ed Davey is a man who speaks about the real issues affecting modern Britain.
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Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:26 am
by mattomac
The comments on Facebook seem generally about 90% in favour of animals and wildlife.
Churchill would have been replaced in the next few years anyhow imagine the response if it had been a woman or heaven forbid someone who isn’t white. They’ve not had that yet.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:51 am
by Youngian
Killer Whale wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:02 am
Give the fuckers something proper to complain about and hopefully their heads will explode.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha.
Davey has to keep this rubbish up for another 3 years. What's he going to contrive an attack from next? The great British sausage?
This is what's called "culture war" when other people do it.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 6:12 am
Apart from drug dealers, people rarely handle banknotes. Davey had an opportunity to fill a vacuum and show what a responsible opposition leader looks like in an international crisis. But instead is acting the twat.
Even as a politics nerd I can only name 10 per cent of Lib Dem MPs. May as well be balloons on sticks with ‘not a Tory’ written on them.
I can do
Sarah Olney
Max Wiliknson (my hometown)
Richard Foote (won a by election)
Munira Wilson (used to work with my mate, who said she was very nice and a good laugh)
Daisy Cooper (been there a while)
Wera Hobhouse (ditto)
Laila Moran (ditto)
Christine Jardine (ditto)
I wonder if they're struggling because they can't announce anything beyond being unhappy with banknotes and fantasy EU deals, because they don't want to give the impression they'll raise taxes. Back in the 90s, up till about 2007, they were at least prepared to give the impression they would do that, even if the amounts were not great. Someone pointed out that the not exactly far left Jo Swinson proposed bigger tax rises in one manifesto (2019) than all the previous Lib Dem manifestos put together.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:28 pm
by Killer Whale
The Chadwick one in Brecon?
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:34 pm
by Youngian
Got Cooper, Olney, Moran and Davey of course. Two Cambs MPs Pippa Heyling and some drip called (Forgot her first name) Cane. The other is Mike Martin , a former army officer, business troubleshooter and a geopolitics academic. A man to watch.
Re: The Liberal Democrats, generally
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:49 pm
by Samanfur
mattomac wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 11:26 am
The comments on Facebook seem generally about 90% in favour of animals and wildlife.
Churchill would have been replaced in the next few years anyhow imagine the response if it had been a woman or heaven forbid someone who isn’t white. They’ve not had that yet.
We've already seen
their reactions to that.