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Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:41 am
by Boiler
Rhymes with "Berkeley Hunt"?

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:43 am
by Bones McCoy
Killer Whale wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 2:42 pm Already seen comparisons to various Labour leadership campaign donations.
What about Starmer's glasses?

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:50 am
by kreuzberger
Speaking to Sky News' political editor Beth Rigby at the G20 summit in South Africa, the prime minister said Nigel Farage "needs to launch an investigation into his party to understand how that happened".
Like asking Ronnie Biggs to conduct his own prosecution.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 12:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The literal prosecution of Nathan Gill has already happened, and apparently there are more police investigations. Who else would you expect to investigate an internal party matter?

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:45 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
davidjay wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:18 am
Boiler wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:57 am Words fail me...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nny-kruger
I can think of one word.
So can I.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 3:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Kruger.
These fall under “the panoply we call ‘woke’”, he explains, “a word that trivialises quite a substantial set of ideas that are not to be treated flippantly. Everything from BLM [Black Lives Matter], to trans, to the Palestinian agenda, to DEI [diversity, equity and inclusion] in the workforce, to all the ideas that are undermining traditional associations of family, community and nation. Those ideas are hostile to the inherited understandings of how we belong, and how we relate to each other in society. So: hostility to traditional families, hostility to the idea of rootedness in place, hostility to nations.”
Why are Palestinian rights hostile to "inherited understandings of how we belong"? The UK has supported Arab nationalism before. Or does it just mean that brown people support Palestinian rights? Come to think of it what, has "trans" got to do with hostility to traditional families? Or indeed "DEI'? A lot of effort was made in the past to get girls more interested in some school subjects/professions. Was that bad?

He couldn't say "hostility to people like me" (when it isn't even that) more clearly if he tried.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:24 pm
by Samanfur
I wish that an interviewer would stop the reductivism of simply saying "DEI", and ask whether it was the diversity, the equality or the inclusion that the interviewee had a problem with, and why.

Make the everything-I-don't-like-is-woke brigade have to explicitly defend themselves and their rancid attitudes.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 4:41 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
What? A journalist with integrity?

How very dare you...

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 6:30 pm
by Andy McDandy
Yeah, traditional values, like in the good old days when everyone knew their place nobody had any highfalutin' ideas and notions about getting above their station. When you'd be grateful to Massa unless you wanted a night or three in the box.

What a cunt.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:03 pm
by kreuzberger
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 12:46 pm The literal prosecution of Nathan Gill has already happened, and apparently there are more police investigations. Who else would you expect to investigate an internal party matter?
It is potentially so much more than merely an internal party matter. Rather, a well-established criminal enterprise which serves a hostile entity.

It is quite conceivable that Starmer has regained his old touch and entrusted the investigation to Frogage, safe in the knowledge that he will come back with the one-bad-apple conclusion by tea-time, thereby validating the need for a forensic probe.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I think cops are already looking more widely.

Starmer getting his old touch back would be nice, but don't think anyone would say any different.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:32 pm
by mattomac
Why are traitors always the ones who call others.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 10:23 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 7:19 pm I think cops are already looking more widely.

Starmer getting his old touch back would be nice, but don't think anyone would say any different.
Indeed, some investigations are starting to yield answers:




Now we keep asking:
* Why were the tories so keen on Russian donations?
* Why were the tories so resistant to investigating Russian interference?
* Why have so many tories crossed over to Reform?
* Why were so many reformers so close to Russia / Crypto.
* How many of these would sell out their nation for a little grift.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2025 11:25 pm
by davidjay
mattomac wrote: Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:32 pm Why are traitors always the ones who call others.
See also fascists, patriots, peedo hunters...

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:20 am
by Youngian
Now we keep asking:
* Why were the tories so keen on Russian donations?

There was a logical policy to woo the Russian elites into the orbit of the West. Especially as an ally in the war against terror. Although it was centre right circles of which Cameron and Hague were part of who were the most hawkish against Putin and made the right call. I guess the Tories like their money and status so convinced themselves that Russian donors were independent actors. That well known anti racist campaigner Boris Johnson would accuse people who questioned these donors as Russophobic.
Other parties had the foresight not accept Russian business donations.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 10:06 pm
by kreuzberger
David Coburn: that preening, Scotch kipper queen (who now lives in France) is feeling the heat. "C'est bien ainsi..."

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... ts-400761/

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 10:14 pm
by Abernathy
Never heard of this joker before.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 10:51 pm
by davidjay
Meanwhile, in today's edition of Tales of the Totally Expected:

Darren Grimes’ Reform council sees financial black hole grow by £11m

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... es-400775/

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 4:37 pm
by The Weeping Angel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30jd843m0go
The leader of Reform UK on Doncaster Council has stepped down, claiming he had received "vitriolic texts that border on abuse" from members of his own party.

Guy Aston resigned the leadership amid disagreements within the party over a statement in which he supported moves to reopen Doncaster Sheffield Airport.

Meanwhile, Irwen Martin confirmed he had stepped down as the party's local branch chairman and, according to the council's website, Adwick and Carcroft councillor Nicola Brown had quit the party and would sit as an Independent.

A national Reform UK HQ spokesperson thanked Aston for his "hard work and stewardship" and said Karl Hughes would take charge while a new group leader was found.

In a resignation email to his fellow councillors, seen by the Local Democracy Reporting Service (LDRS), Aston revealed that following a meeting on Thursday, when his own members rejected his attempts to remove Reform UK councillor Jason Charity from his role as chair of the authority's audit committee, he had received a number of "vitriolic" messages.

Aston said: "While I would expect such behaviour from the extreme wing of our opponents, it is disappointing to see it coming from my own side."

He went on to state: "I believed Reform was better than this. Clearly, I was mistaken."
The party of tomorrow folks.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 5:20 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I believed Reform was better than this.
I think you were alone in that, son...