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One brown face is too many for them.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 6:37 pm See here.

I've looked up My Tyrone. He seems to be a popgun for higher, having advocated for Remain when he was close to the Liberal Democrats, then worked for an organization trying to cut regulations after Brexit, now apparently back to the anti-Brexit side. He's typically ignorant.

I mean, heaven forbid that your colleagues know something about the subject before steaming in.

Hilariously Kemi has alighted on this non-point, I see.

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 8:23 pm One brown face is too many for them.

Yep. With bonus lump of labour fallacy from Goodwin.

This service deal is reciprocal but it's beyond the tiny imagination of Reform supporters that Brit tech workers would ever go to India. They're just chai wallers and rice pickers over there.
Less concerned about the detail of this deal and more interested in the big picture it sends to Trump; RoW is moving on without you so go fuck yourself.

To the Government's credit, they make the point in their press release about it benefiting British workers abroad. You'd think the Kippers would be in favour of this sort of thing, India being in the Commonwealth...

The chances of highly skilled Indian tech workers turning up in Clacton or Ashfield 'taking all the council houses' and 'stinking of curry' are very slim indeed.

The argument will be about taking jobs- see Goodwin. These are intracompany transfers as I understand it. Offices in "Mumbai, Paris, Skegness"

Another nice shit sandwich left for the new government.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ls-dwindle

England faces drought this summer as reservoir water levels dwindle
Exclusive: Government and water firms preparing for possible shortages as dry weather is expected to continue

Sadly the take away from this for most of the BTL folk will be the real issue is Starmer not nationalizing water firms, which apparently produces reservoirs out of nowhere. Thames Water was actually trying to do the right thing but has been faced with nonsense like this.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19980 ... nsparency/

Killer arguments like this from Layla Moran.

“I would prefer the amount of money and effort which is going into the proposed reservoir to instead be focussed on eradicating sewage pollution in our rivers.”

I seem to spend half my time moaning about Lib Dems now. I'd still vote for them if I had to, of course, but there's too much of this stuff. Doubtless the taxes/ water bills that would pay for the eradication of sewage in our rivers would be opposed by them too.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 8:25 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 6:37 pm See here.

I've looked up My Tyrone. He seems to be a popgun for higher, having advocated for Remain when he was close to the Liberal Democrats, then worked for an organization trying to cut regulations after Brexit, now apparently back to the anti-Brexit side. He's typically ignorant.

I'm going to unfollow him he's been a complete sod over this.

Predictably the reaction is “this is nothing, what about Brexit?” Like there’s not a summit in two weeks.

Is it too much to expect these people to read the Budget? Had a lot more capital investment in it. What does nationalizing water and energy cost? Where does a nationalised provider get cheap gas from that everyone else is currently not spotting? How loose does he want fiscal rules to be? What would the borrowing rate be?

They're right about benefit cuts though.

As I said on the other thread, she's trying to demonstrate some clear red water between Welsh Labour and the Westminster government with one eye on the Senedd elections next May. Nothing much more to this than that, really.

One of Sikka’s ideas is “lift up the 50%”. I don’t think I’ve seen a clearer example of the fantasy world the Jez Left live in. “Help the poor” is a perfectly achievable aim and what Labour should be doing. 50% is a lot of people to help from redistribution, while also funding public services.

From the FT.

The UK and the US are close to agreeing a trade pact that would cushion the impact of Donald Trump’s “liberation day” tariffs by granting lower-tariff quotas for British car and steel exports, according to officials in London and Washington.

We've had this hope before and see what's in it. Doubtless this'll be "should be prioritizing Europe" as well. It was confidently asserted the other day that the UK was now a "second order" priority.

I think Duncan might be on to something here.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 2:41 pm From the FT.

The UK and the US are close to agreeing a trade pact that would cushion the impact of Donald Trump’s “liberation day” tariffs by granting lower-tariff quotas for British car and steel exports, according to officials in London and Washington.

We've had this hope before and see what's in it. Doubtless this'll be "should be prioritizing Europe" as well. It was confidently asserted the other day that the UK was now a "second order" priority.

And that's an improvement.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:36 pm I think Duncan might be on to something here.

Doubt Rees Mogg is the only Tory who finds Badenoch’s knee jerk opposition tedious.
Of course the likes of Mogg and Hannan want to jerk off to their Victorian mercantilist fantasies but the truth is that FTAs aren't that exciting or significant economically if you already trade on WTO schedules.
This deal reduces tariffs on UK spirits and cars in exchange for removing negligible tariffs on some Indian imports in sectors that the UK doesn’t much play in. Ironically there would have been no deal if that fool Rees-Mogg had his way and unilaterally removed all tariff barriers to the UK. As the country would have no cards to bargain with.
The diplomatic signals that these series of deals the RoW is making send to Trump is however significant and hugely welcome.

Have to see what's in the deal. If it removes digital services tax, that'll be politically difficult, to say the least. Was odd for Reeves to say she might do this up front. The US (not just Trump) hates this tax.

Might be some sort of "we'll definitely buy a load of cadillacs" arrangement. That would be quite amusing. Whatever is in the deal, Ed "Mad Dog" Davey would have got a better one.

Well indeed. The Guardian news team have had it in for Starmer. The paper had it in for Corbyn too back in the day. I wonder what they actually want.