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She should never have been in the bloody Labour Party anyway.

Great reference to the 2 party system there. The 2 parties she refers are currently on about 40% combined. Maybe she's not joined the Greens because she's not heard about them?

Boiler wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:35 pm
I suspect it will go the same way as Change UK (and all the other names it had): a flash in the pan and that'll be it. What Labour really doesn't need is yet another party to split its vote.

And The Greens really don't need it.

I see Sultana’s new party is already going well.

This populism on the WFA is really jarring to me. Just vote endlessly for more money for everything, then say "£24bn wealth tax". Funny how this wealth tax wasn't such a slam dunk when Jez was actually leader. It would raise several billion, but not the money they talk about.

"The Government is an active participant in genocide", she says. I thought they were just "complicit"? Is Starmer actually flying the bombing missions, or just ordering them?

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2 ... Type=Names

Ha ha ha. She voted for Recall if MPs changed their party affiliation.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:47 pm I see Sultana’s new party is already going well.

To issue a press release without clearing it with your new boss is as arrogant as it is stupid as it is unprofessional.

It's also very funny!

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:07 pm https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2 ... Type=Names

Ha ha ha. She voted for Recall if MPs changed their party affiliation.

Oh dear, in it for herself, establishment, neoliberal, blah blah

She can do as she wishes. It's a free country, lest she should claim that the IDF smell of wee. She could have (historically) chose to have had her views and often mine, from within the party.

It is now her own free choice to prevent the door slamming her arse on the way out.

The whole leaving post is barely adult. What "forever wars"? The one where we're helping allies not be taken over by Putin? Or Israel-Palestine, where we're a direct participant, so she says? Or Iran, which Starmer's definitely agreed to bomb with Trump?

Rio off bills to tiny elite bathing in cash? Yeah fine, but where are the cheaper gas supplies?

That is classic sixth form stuff. I'd have been proper proud of that if I'd have drafted it while failing my A Levels. Fair play. Ware teg iddi.

Isn't it just? It gives some credence to the suggestion Jez hadn't been properly informed. He'd have knocked it into shape before she released it.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:02 pm "The Government is an active participant in genocide", she says. I thought they were just "complicit"? Is Starmer actually flying the bombing missions, or just ordering them?

Did she forget that the government sanctioned two Israeli Cabinet Ministers?

Having a party split before the party's formed is good even by Jezzerati standards.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:47 pm I see Sultana’s new party is already going well.

Not often you see a how it started/how it’s going post appear with essentially minutes between the two states

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:52 pm Jez hadn't been properly informed. He'd have knocked it into shape before she released it.

I don't really think that he would have to any significant degree. Corbyn's own rhetoric is every bit as sixth-form as Sultana's.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:52 pm Isn't it just? It gives some credence to the suggestion Jez hadn't been properly informed. He'd have knocked it into shape before she released it.

Or, it’s entirely possible he’s handling it about as well as he did his stint as Labour Party leader - sitting back and not doing much of anything, getting tetchy when things don’t go exactly as he expects despite him neither giving instructions nor making any hands-on effort, and mainly looking forward to giving the same speech as he always gives to friendly and unchallenging audiences.

Both Jez and Sultana like being centre of attention. So it’ll be interesting to see how long this “co-leadership” thing lasts before they start doing a Reform and splintering the splinter.

davidjay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 1:27 am Having a party split before the party's formed is good even by Jezzerati standards.