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Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 9:34 pm
by mattomac
I think it’s probably due to where the party is, no one wants to be associated with it, no one likeable anyhow. You could be a Tory and palpable at one time, all that lot kicked out when “big dog” didn’t take kindly to people who disagreed with him. A position that is perfectly ok in a democracy but not in a dictatorship.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 9:39 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yeah you wonder who wants to stick their neck out for the Tories now. I had a few friends from university, very able, typical Tory young professionals. One did some legwork for them in Battersea, which was a good area for them till Brexit, which got the sane Jane Ellison booted out on a 10% swing. The other lost interest in them after Michael Howard's godawful campaign in 2005 (though he may have voted for Cameron). Be very surprised if either of them bother now.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 9:50 pm
by Youngian
Tories had a slight lead among those with degree level education until 2017. So not lefties in Che t-shirts as Reform would have you believe but high earners in the Home counties who like rational stable government. Now the Tories can't even hold Tonbridge Wells and could easily lose a dozen more seats if Jenrick leads them into the next GE.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 10:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
They couldn't even hold South Cotswolds, and probably only held the North Cotswolds because Ed Davey didn't have the resources to target it. Or rather he did, but didn't know it- he romped home in Tewkesbury next door by 6,000.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 10:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Good list of Lib Dem target seats here.

https://liberalengland.blogspot.com/202 ... neral.html

Those seats in Hampshire look tempting, not a Home County, but like one outside of Southampton and Portsmouth. I note that Caroline Nokes held on in Romsey and Southampton North, adopting the unusual Tory tactic of sounding personally sympathetic and sane.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 3:21 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Hall, who is still the Tory leader in the London Assembly, has signed up with Rupert Lowe's "worse than Farage" group. Apparently you don't lose the whip for this stuff nowadays.


Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 3:44 pm
by Killer Whale
Do they have a source for the 'Millions of foreign nationals who..." claim?

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Don't know what the numbers are, but it's sort of true if completely disingenuous. There are lots of people who have indefinite leave to remain, but have never taken up the citizenship to which they'd be entitled. The result of theirfavored crackdown would of course be that those people applied for citizenship and carried on as they were before.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:41 pm
by Killer Whale
It's not millions. Unless they're going to use a measure of 'entirely fail to integrate' that I would fail.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Goodwin has come out with this stuff. I think the numbers are fairly large, but as you say, not "millions". Like Rupert Lowe, Goodwin didn't feel the need to tell anyone they had indefinite leave to remain.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 1:27 pm
by Youngian
If you're the worst mayor in the world and want to win, stand against Susan Hall

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 10:37 pm
by mattomac
I’m sure Khan was gutted.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:08 am
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:46 pm Goodwin has come out with this stuff. I think the numbers are fairly large, but as you say, not "millions". Like Rupert Lowe, Goodwin didn't feel the need to tell anyone they had indefinite leave to remain.
There were a slew of these during one of the summer's "Scary Forriners" weeks.

If I remember correctly, Goodwin's classification would have deported Joanna Lumley, Rishi Sunak, Kemi Badenoch and Cliff Richard.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:44 am
by soulboy
The definition would certainly have included Boris Johnson and probably The King, who has all sorts of forrin in his family tree.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:35 am
by davidjay
So far I can't see a problem.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Hall will soon be joining Reform, or Rupert Lowe's party.

I still can't believe they found a candidate worse than Shaun Bailey, who could at least sound semi-convincing on crime (there'd been a couple of fairly bad years for murders). By the time Hall showed up, they'd settled down to about the long term rate).

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:50 pm
by Watchman
I should imagine she’s still pissed that Jenkyns got a mayor gig, with an easier ride.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:09 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:44 pm Hall will soon be joining Reform, or Rupert Lowe's party.

I still can't believe they found a candidate worse than Shaun Bailey, who could at least sound semi-convincing on crime (there'd been a couple of fairly bad years for murders). By the time Hall showed up, they'd settled down to about the long term rate).
Reform have even managed to find a candidate worse than Susan Hall, Ant Middleton who's a nutter convicted for beating up a copper.

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:18 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ant Middleton has appointed himself as candidate, but probably won't get the gig. There's the attacking cops (including a female officer) and this
In March 2025, the Insolvency Service announced that Middleton and his wife had been banned from becoming a director of a company for four years following the failure of his company to pay over £1 million in tax.[34][35] The UK Insolvency Service said £385,000 in VAT and £869,000 in corporation tax was owed on £4.5 million in income which flowed into the company between 2019 and 2022.
More likely I think that they put up a "businessman with a sense of destiny".

Re: Susan Hall

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:42 pm
by mattomac
Yeah he was at the Tommy knobrot march of fascists.