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Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 1:09 pm

Migration is Britain’s superpower. Our future depends on embracing that truth, not denying it
Zack Polanski

But you can't build those houses, not there.

Did he say why Britain is a migrant superpower? I assume the main reason it can attract immigrants when China and Japan can’t is Anglophone hegemony. No one comes here for the weather, fine dining or the charming warm welcome from the natives.

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:13 pm No one comes here for the weather, fine dining or the charming warm welcome from the natives.

Catch yourself on. Everybody knows they come here for the free houses, flat screen TVs, and the £800 a week free pocket money. And the swan allowance.

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:13 pm
Did he say why Britain is a migrant superpower? I assume the main reason it can attract immigrants when China and Japan can’t is Anglophone hegemony. No one comes here for the weather, fine dining or the charming warm welcome from the natives.

I didn't read it. I assume higher education, the English language. Otherwise, per lots of people (not least Zack) everything's shit here. I might be assuming too much seriousness on Zack's part, maybe it's all politics with his contention that Labour are basically Reform or laying the groundwork for inevitable Reform government.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:15 pm I see Zack's on to "the political class", in true Farage fashion. Does this stuff work from a left point of view? From a Farage point of view, there are lots of voters it does work for, the idea that these "politicians" are arsing about with what they see as fancy dan issues. I'm skeptical if a left politician can makes eg much more immigration, much looser fiscal policy, nuclear disarmament into "robust common sense".

We have possibly the most anti politics PM* in living memory. Starmer has little interest in politics but policies and is not making much political effort to please the public while he goes about getting things done. And they hate him for it. Full-of-shit voters should be careful what they wish for.

* Just being counter intuitive, an anti-politics candidate is of course a clueless bullshitter who pretends to like a pint and shitty jokes only idiots find funny.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:18 pm

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:13 pm No one comes here for the weather, fine dining or the charming warm welcome from the natives.

Catch yourself on. Everybody knows they come here for the free houses, flat screen TVs, and the £800 a week free pocket money. And the swan allowance.

Amusingly, on my way towards the A1 today I noticed the opposite carriageway on the ring road had come to a halt because of... a swan.

Is Zack going to hit out at people with nice houses in North Herefordshire and Waveney Valley who've seen the price of those houses rise while they were sleeping, just the same as the rich? Or indeed people who live in average houses all over the place. How fortunate that none of these people will have to pay a penny extra in tax.

What's the Bournemouth point? Population is over 200,000. Probably pretty good wages, and certainly lots of expensive property.

Note the implication that no meaningful climate investment is happening too.

Boiler wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:34 pm

Abernathy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 4:18 pm

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:13 pm No one comes here for the weather, fine dining or the charming warm welcome from the natives.

Catch yourself on. Everybody knows they come here for the free houses, flat screen TVs, and the £800 a week free pocket money. And the swan allowance.

Amusingly, on my way towards the A1 today I noticed the opposite carriageway on the ring road had come to a halt because of... a swan.

I trust that an out of shape rural copper was trying to round up the swans.*

* Paging McDandy, there is a pop culture reference in need of a punchline

Nope, no-one...

A reference to the second film in Edgar Wright's Cornetto Trilogy, Hot Fuzz, where Nick Forst spends most of the movie chasing an errant swan.

The deputy leader of the Greens seems like a real charmer.



Full story here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33ryml4y5ko

I hadn't seen that either. Very disappointing, seemed like he had something about him, getting out there where in Harehills when it was kicking off and calming the crowd down.

Zack's backed him, I see.

Looking at that quote up there, I notice Zack used plumbers as an example of people who he doesn't think should pay more tax. Average plumber wage (per Checkatrade) is £45,000, with sole traders and business owners quite a bit higher. Median salary is about £38,000. That really isn't a very broad tax base for a lot of extra spending.

Talking of the Greens, I see Paul Bernal in that irritating superior way he's developed when talking about the government, has told "Dear Labour" that people are supporting the Greens because they know about the policies. That's news to me from North Herefordshire, where the campaign (quite rightly, it worked really well, and we have a good MP now) could have basically been a Lib Dem campaign.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 7:33 pm I hadn't seen that either. Very disappointing, seemed like he had something about him, getting out there where in Harehills when it was kicking off and calming the crowd down.

I'd heard about this a few months ago from someone I follow on Twitter.

Who are the demographic susceptible to populism who might consider voting for the Greens, Freemen of the Land and people who buy crystals to prevent diseases?

Plenty in St Ives.... well actually there is about 300 they get in council elections, used to be a vote that would let the Tories in but an ex Lib Dem stepped up and now seems to be the personal candidate people vote for.

He isn't that bad to be fair.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 6:32 am Who are the demographic susceptible to populism who might consider voting for the Greens, Freemen of the Land and people who buy crystals to prevent diseases?

There's a market for economic populism, certainly in the abstract. Whether that survives in a general election where Zack is treated as a serious competitor, who knows? The Greens ran a Lib Dem type campaign here (quite rightly). People voting for them weren't made to worry about Zack whacking up the cost of their mortgages because he thinks he can stick it to the markets.

He seems pretty confident about London, but I wonder, Labour gets a lot of support from professionals there who might want to see a bit more from him than what he's spouted so far.