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Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:05 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:32 pm Anthony Seldon's qualification to talk like he's Robert Caro has always escaped me.

It's like he's following events through headlines.
He's also following a narrative that is being set by the media.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:06 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Rupert Lowe on to the issues that matter there. Who'd take what was said and done on stage as representing the BBC? They swiftly apologized, so did Glastonbury itself.

His whole schtick is "publicly funded". This is the Pat Buchanan bollocks about offensive artworks in shows that had received public funding.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:13 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Well, according to Andrew Marr if Starmer doesn't get welfare reform, his government is toast.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:31 pm
by kreuzberger
The Pistol's Nazi iconography has to be seen in the then contemporary context. The Swastika was Vivienne Westwood's articulation of chaos and artistic dissent in an era of pure turmoil. Her boyfriend, Malcolm McLaren, just so happened to be the manager of a nascent rock n roll band, having taken the New York Dolls from nowhere to obscurity in Chinese communist leathers. It was a symbolic shortcut to filthy lucre. Nothing more, nothing less, and certainly not the reason why the establishment lost its shit and tried to silence dangerous voices.

At the time, the only voice that was successfully silenced was that of Gerry Adams. We all thought that the wooden BBC voice-overs were a poor, wooden actor's take, only to find out that it was a pretty good representation. I am licking my lips and looking forward to BBC producer staff voicing Kneecap.

All things considered, I am more persuaded than ever that Kneecap is the most potent and most important artistic force from these islands in the last 40-odd years. Cultural and racially agnostic, fiercely observant, politically boundless, and seriously fucking good at what they do.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:54 pm
by Abernathy
kreuzberger wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:31 pm

At the time, the only voice that was successfully silenced was that of Gerry Adams. We all thought that the wooden BBC voice-overs were a poor, wooden actor's take, only to find out that it was a pretty good representation.
By Stephen Rea, a very fine Irish actor. I just googled him, and astonishingly, he is now 78 years old.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:57 pm
by kreuzberger
EDASD

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:17 pm
by Abernathy
kreuzberger wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:57 pmEDASD

Que ?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:20 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:13 pm Well, according to Andrew Marr if Starmer doesn't get welfare reform, his government is toast.
Just like David Cameron after losing the Syria vote?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:24 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Abernathy wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:17 pm
kreuzberger wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:57 pmEDASD

Que ?
Every day’s a school day.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:42 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:20 pm
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:13 pm Well, according to Andrew Marr if Starmer doesn't get welfare reform, his government is toast.
Just like David Cameron after losing the Syria vote?
Yeah, I mean it depends on the legislation they put forward, something like say inheritance tax reform isn't going to cause much disquiet on the backbenchers.