"But political violence comes from the Godless Left - EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT!"
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:33 pm
by Youngian
I read on X that the suspect was indoctrinated by liberals at a Utah college.
Perhaps he's a Manchurian Candidate controlled by Bernie Sanders
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:04 pm
by kreuzberger
It is far too early to draw firm conclusions about this Robinson lad who stands accused of this crime, but regardless of all the EXTRREEEMIST!*!! crud that is flooding across Twitter, he just seems to be so fucking normal. In fact, I am struggling to think of a murderous fruit loop who didn't look to be totally unhinged since Charlie Manson.
Conclusion: that country represents a clear and present danger to anyone daft enough to go there. It's like the Australian outback but with guns and an unpredictable layer of inevitability.
They will kill you eventually.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:37 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
#2 son has renounced his American citizenship. He won't - can't - ever go back.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:10 am
by Youngian
Kirk appears to be the victim of a schism on the far right. Robinson was a follower of this white nationalist guy. Supporting Israel appears to be a faultline. Its like a Tankies Vs Trots spat but fought with assault rifles instead of in-house newspapers.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:16 am
by Youngian
Kirk appears to be the victim of a schism on the far right. Robinson was a follower of this white nationalist guy. Supporting Israel appears to be a major faultline (like Nick Griffin's beef with our own Mr Robinson). At least Tankies Vs Trots fought with in-house newspapers instead of assault rifles.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 10:21 am
by Boiler
Kirk was apparently fond of saying "prove me wrong".
Although I have not watched this video, apparently this Cambridge student did prove him wrong and left him floundering.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 10:30 am
by Samanfur
Kirk debated students because the majority wouldn't have the knowledge, life experience or debating skills to properly demolish what he was coming out with, but some might have been malleable enough to be gaslit into following him.
If he was ever actually open to being proven wrong and changing his mind, rather than making a show of reassuring his backers and followers that they were in the right and should keep following him, the grift would have been over.
And we couldn't have that, could we?
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 10:42 am
by AOB
A Mr T. Robinson shooting a fascist, eh. Where's the upside down emoji?
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 11:28 am
by Oboogie
Boiler wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 10:21 am
Kirk was apparently fond of saying "prove me wrong".
Although I have not watched this video, apparently this Cambridge student did prove him wrong and left him floundering.
Watching that whole Cambridge Union debate back in May was my introduction to Charlie Kirk (an algorithm pick for me). The ginger student is the one who gets all the attention (perhaps because he was more animated?) but personally I found him a little overexcited and immature. Each of the students (and one of their professors), demolished Kirk (who must have had a masochistic streak a mile wide) most of them managed it in a mature, methodical manner which I found more effective.
Here's a link to the whole debate (I did try to post it at the time but Mailwatch gremlins ate my post and I couldn't be bothered to retype it).
Edited to insert an omitted letter.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 6:27 pm
by Boiler
This must be that "free speech" I keep hearing about.
Reactions on social media to the murder of far-right activist Charlie Kirk have cost multiple people their jobs as authorities in numerous states clamp down on critical commentary.
Among those to have been fired, suspended or censured in recent days for their opinions include teachers, firefighters, journalists, politicians, a Secret Service employee, a junior strategist at Nasdaq and a worker for a prominent NFL team.
The dismissals come as the administration of Donald Trump promises to take action against foreign nationals it deems to be “praising, rationalizing or making light of” Kirk’s killing, himself a fervent free speech advocate.
Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, meanwhile, has ordered staff “to find and identify military members, and any individual associated with the Pentagon, who have mocked or appeared to condone Charlie Kirk’s murder”, NBC News reported Friday.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:18 pm
by Youngian
Haven't said anything derogatory about Kirk but I might do and then inform the US embassy in order to gain a proud entry ban to the US.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 12:57 pm
by Boiler
This is rather tangential to the discussion, but: over on a railway forum I frequent, a poster has remarked upon how expensive books are in the US - he said that even paperback fiction books are three to four times the cost of what they are in the UK, which surprises me.
Has anyone else observed this or is aware of this? If so, no wonder Dolly Parton's Imagination Library hands out so many books to children.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2025 8:51 pm
by Samanfur
I'll just leave this here:
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 7:43 am
by Samanfur
Since his show's already been cancelled, Stephen Colbert doesn't have anything to lose, and he's taking full advantage:
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 3:11 pm
by Watchman
The list of speakers at Kirk’s memorial service, at least Adolph only needed himself and Gobbels
Charlie Kirk’s wife, Erika Kirk
President Donald Trump
Vice-President JD Vance
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles
Secretary of State Marco Rubio
Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller
Director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office Sergio Gor
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 4:52 pm
by RedSparrows
If you're going to be performative cynical exploiters, you might as well turn it up to 11.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:19 pm
by kreuzberger
What a pathetic spectacle. The weirdo widow (with her $12m windfall) tips up for a party-mandated grief-fest in something called the State Farm stadium. Isn't that a bit, you know, Bolshevik?
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:38 pm
by Abernathy
They do seem to be absolutely determined to squeeze every last drop of political martyr’s blood out of Charlie Kirk’s murder that they can manage.
And yet, why do I somehow suspect that on a personal, human level, not a single one of them gives a flying fuck that Kirk is dead ?