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This is really very good.

Like the Gallagher brothers, setting out on a tour with a setlist that doesn’t include a song younger than 30 years, Jeremy Corbyn is back. Like the Gallagher brothers he hasn’t changed at all. Jeremy Corbyn who, in 2022, called for the UK to stop arming Ukraine against Putin’s invasion, is back. Jeremy Corbyn who, in 2023, provoked astonishment in a Piers Morgan Talk TV interview with his Denial Of Peter-esque inability to refer to Hamas as a terrorist organisation, is back. Labour and Keir Starmer have given him this foothold, failing to meaningfully address the horrors of the war in Gaza.

Many on the left have never spent a moment since 2019 reflecting on why Labour found so little electoral success with Corbyn as leader. Instead, they chose a stab-in-the-back narrative of internal sabotage. There has been plenty of online abuse of opponents, but never an earnest attempt to come to terms with the ex-leader’s failings. Now there will never need to be.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2 ... ir-starmer

Just in case anyone fancies a laugh

Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:44 pm This is really very good.

Like the Gallagher brothers, setting out on a tour with a setlist that doesn’t include a song younger than 30 years, Jeremy Corbyn is back. Like the Gallagher brothers he hasn’t changed at all.

Unlike Corbyn, millions are evidently pleased to see the return of the Gallaghers who are at least delivering what they promise.

The Oasis comparison is a bit modern. Jez is more like Mud doing a comeback tour.

You just wonder what twisted logic could lead anyone to believe that a startup political party, led by a man who in recent memory was actually in the prime position to win power and implement the sort of radical socialist policies that people are allegedly clamouring for but failed miserably to do so, twice, and led the Labour Party to the brink of electoral oblivion, is likely to succeed in doing anything other than opening the door to number ten to Kemi Badenoch or/and Nigel fucking Farage.

Forming new parties is one of the few things people on the Outer Left can do to look purposeful. That's why they do it even when there's already a party doing fairly well in virtually the same political space.

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https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-even ... -the-union

We knew this was coming, but it looks like the Len McCluskey corruption chickens are finally coming home to roost.
70 million quid of Unite members’ money spaffed up the wall / into the pockets of McCluskey’s mates in the shape of a ridiculous hotel & conference centre built in Birmingham.

More to come, I dare say, but I do hope they manage to nail that slimey hypocrite McCluskey to the wall. Despicable shit that he is.

Sharon Graham has been good here, to be fair.

I'll put this in the same thread, seeing it's also Unite. But strange statement on the Lindsey refinery.

https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-even ... l-refinery

It's as you'd expect, fighting its members corner on trying to keep it open. Then this odd bit.

Unite members in the oil industry are fast losing confidence in the government’s plans for net zero as it continues to fail UK workers.”

What's keeping an oil refinery got to do with net zero?! Almost like they want to go full Reform and say "Government pissing about with net zero", but can't quite bring themselves to do it.

I wonder how well unionised the workers in the newer green industries are?

Good question. I'd expect there are quite a fair few small contractors in the "just put solar panels on car parks" part of it.

But at least one of the big Lincolnshire solar projects is being built by SSE, who seem to be unionised

https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-even ... renewables

Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana set up new political party to 'take on the rich and powerful'
Jeremy Corbyn has confirmed he is setting up a new political party with former Labour MP Zarah Sultana, vowing to “build a democratic movement that can take on the rich and powerful - and win”.

What does "win" actually mean here? They're not going to be in Government. Winning in a few seats that already have independents, and mostly hurting the Greens and Labour elsewhere? Power without responsibility.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:50 pm

Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana set up new political party to 'take on the rich and powerful'
Jeremy Corbyn has confirmed he is setting up a new political party with former Labour MP Zarah Sultana, vowing to “build a democratic movement that can take on the rich and powerful - and win”.

What does "win" actually mean here? They're not going to be in Government. Winning in a few seats that already have independents, and mostly hurting the Greens and Labour elsewhere? Power without responsibility.

It's served Farage well...

It's served Le Pen and Melenchon well too. I worry that's where we're heading. Literally anything the meaningfully reduces the deficit will be out of bounds.

She says they're starting a party together. He says they aren't. They start a party together. He says it's called Your Party. She says it isn't.

The future looks promising.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:50 pm What does "win" actually mean here?

Getting Starmer out.

Waggle your bums at them. If they respond, they're triggered. If they don't, they're either clueless bastards or they're still triggered but don't dare show it.

If they make any good points about you, say that you're obviously living rent-free in their heads. Or ask "U OK hun?", or "Doesn't he look tired?", like a twat.

A joint statement from him and Sultana said:

The system is rigged. The system is rigged when 4.5 million children live in poverty in the sixth richest country in the world.

Which makes China the second richest country in the world, and India the fifth. Is is not too much that these two understand per capita?

The system is rigged when this government says there is no money for the poor, but billions for war.

Roughly translated- Fuck off European allies. What a guy.