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Oboogie wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 7:15 pm ...back to the discos then. Thanks.

My plaice or yours?

Fish* Discos

* I'm as aware as you pedants that a prawn is not a fish but, no matter how much you grizzle, I'm claiming comedic licence. It's a fucking sea creature and that's close enough.

I'm seeing this sentiment quite a lot on Bluesky.



Their anger isn't so much at the yobs but at Ministers who say what they want to say.

Suggesting the condemnation of violent racists and the incitement of billionaire Nazis is hardly sitting on the fence.

I might be wrong, but I would suggest that a lot of people voted for Starmer not merely because he wasn't a tory, but because they liked the cut of his jib - a decent man who best articulated everyone else's frustrations/disgust/anger when he was on the front foot.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 9:28 pm I'm seeing this sentiment quite a lot on Bluesky.



Their anger isn't so much at the yobs but at Ministers who say what they want to say.

When has a government ever commented on a Saturday afternoon demo? Apart from the ludicrous Braverman whose shit stirring resulted in a punch up with the police at the Cenotaph and cost her job.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 10:24 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sat Sep 13, 2025 9:28 pm I'm seeing this sentiment quite a lot on Bluesky.



Their anger isn't so much at the yobs but at Ministers who say what they want to say.

When has a government ever commented on a Saturday afternoon demo? Apart from the ludicrous Braverman whose shit stirring resulted in a punch up with the police at the Cenotaph and cost her job.

Here's what Shabana Mahmood had to say.

Why is Mahmood stating the bleedin obvious?

It's not that different from what Ed Davey had to say.

It's not different from what Ed Davey had to say.

Maybe the HS and PM can join Davey in showing some leadership over that cunt Musk who's been mouthing off. Before an ambitious player in the restless ranks beats Starmer to it.

How about this



But it doesn't matter what Starmer says because he'll get kicked for it.

But it doesn't matter what Starmer says because he'll get kicked for it.

Who will be kicking the PM for speaking out against Musk’s evil, Tommy Robinson? Good. Decent people of all political persuasions need leadership to rally around while fascist scum like Tommy Ten names is on the march. I’d rather it was the PM than Ed Davey and an obscure backbencher.

Torsten Bell is a minister, and Mahmood is the Home Secretary, but yeah. This is something the PM needs to be doing.

I have noticed that Starmer does sometimes take a day or two to respond to stuff, for whatever reason. Hopefully that's the case here.

This would be good and doesn't seem that expensive to fix.

Government considering compensation for victims of carer’s allowance scandal
Exclusive: Ministers have vowed to fix benefit after Guardian revealed thousands had been plunged into debt for accidentally breaking rules

The Government, to its credit, already raised the upper earnings considerably. Liz Kendall was one of my least favourite appointments, but she did some reasonable stuff apart from the PIP disaster where Reeves may have been responsible.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:58 am Torsten Bell is a minister, and Mahmood is the Home Secretary, but yeah. This is something the PM needs to be doing.

I don't know why he doesn't. People on Bluesky have really turned against him over this.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 11:28 am

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 9:58 am Torsten Bell is a minister, and Mahmood is the Home Secretary, but yeah. This is something the PM needs to be doing.

I don't know why he doesn't. People on Bluesky have really turned against him over this.

They haven't turned, a noisy minority on BlueSky have always been against him and will use anything to get Labour out.

Er. Not sure about this. As prices are regulated, the VAT cut shouldn't be passed on to bill payers. But what's going to be taxed instead, if you can't raise any of the big taxes? Or are they belatedly giving up on that?

BTL comments are as spectacularly gobshite Bluesky as you'd expect.

https://www.vatcalc.com/united-kingdom/ ... nstrument/

Costs £1.75bn apparently. Benefts would go disproportionately to rich families in big houses. There are better options like increasing the warm homes discount for low income households. But perhaps the opinion polls have got to them, and they will do it.

Britain will ‘never surrender flag’ to far-right protesters, Starmer says
Exclusive: PM condemns attacks against police, racist intimidation of minorities and use of flag to instil fear

Here he is.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... ir-starmer

Doubtless this will be represented as "he's had to speak to his donors/focus groups first" but as I observed, he often takes a day or so. Might be better if he were a bit quicker, but it sounds suitably strong, and he's not shied away from "far right".