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Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 4:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The people resigning don't seem to be obvious Streeting marks. Now 4 ministers, Zubir Ahmed, health minister, is the latest.

The PM should indeed carry on. They want him out, they do it properly.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 4:54 pm
by Crabcakes
Ahmed and Jess P. Were specifically named as a “Streeting allies” by the Guardian?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 5:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Oh ok.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 5:26 pm
by Boiler
Highest-rated comment BTL on the Groinache today.
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And an 'interesting' take...

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Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 6:12 pm
by AOB
Do some Labour MPs realise the only way a PM will be liked by the media is if they are called Nigel Farage or are a Conservative PM? Say Starmer goes, someone else from Labour is new PM, do they think that person isn't going to be treated brutally by the media from Day One? Some of them need to stop having their weak little minds shaped by the right and far right, engage some critical thinking and show some fucking solidarity. 14 years of Tory rule we've just had. Give him til 2029 at least, fucks sake.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 6:24 pm
by mattomac
Imagine the next one asking for loyalty.

It's really going have to be someone who kept their powder dry, I really am not happy with the character assassination , it's one thing to say we need a new leader quite another by certain people who should know better.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 6:25 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 2:05 pm 3 ministers now.

Utterly ridiculous behavior. They know as well as I do that "orderly transition" and "timetable for departure" isn't something a Government will be allowed to do. Nobody backing Starmer now is insisting he stay the PM till 2029. They just understand how the politics of this works.
I am absolutely fucking disgusted and considering cancelling my membership.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue May 12, 2026 6:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
AOB wrote: Tue May 12, 2026 6:12 pm Do some Labour MPs realise the only way a PM will be liked by the media is if they are called Nigel Farage or are a Conservative PM? Say Starmer goes, someone else from Labour is new PM, do they think that person isn't going to be treated brutally by the media from Day One? Some of them need to stop having their weak little minds shaped by the right and far right, engage some critical thinking and show some fucking solidarity. 14 years of Tory rule we've just had. Give him til 2029 at least, fucks sake.
The new leader might not be shot from their own side quite as much. Unfortunately the market reaction will likely be less friendly. I don't think there's any sense of how far Reeves has already pushed things with borrowing. Easy for Clive Lewis or whoever to say "what we need right now is investment", or whatever. I don't want Streeting but he's the only one who probably does get the fiscal constraints.

If Starmer's pushed out before the energy bill subsidy, I think things could get very bad very quickly on this score. It wasn't that Kwarteng-Truss did some tax cuts that did for them so much as the massive spending commitment. Reeves has said she will target but she's already facing the Tories, Reform, Lib Dems and Green calling for a much more expensive universal subsidy. Even if the new PM gets it, the temptation to start handing out money is going to be very strong.