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Ellie Chowns and the other rural Green voted against, Sian Berry voted for. I think the Greens will probably give up on rural seats, where the Lib Dems can challenge ToryKip better than they can.

This isn't great either. He's picked up stuff we've discussed about Wales being underfunded, but the problem isn't the Barnett Formula, and supporting independence any time soon isn't going to help.

I've never heard anyone suggest a London wealth tax that gets spent (by the sound of it) in London. That's not going to help regional inequality.

Fuck off Zack



Very progressive to say immigrants are great, as they'll do all the crap jobs.

Well do you, Mr Polanski?

So, Polanski's got the same sense of superiority that plagues so many in this country. A Farage for the Left.

Well, he was never going to get my vote anyway, the prick.

I think Zack's sensible enough to heed this constructive criticism. But again, how do you get to lead a (now) mainstream party of the left with this level of stupidity?

Even worse are the comments BTL in response to James Vaughan, who is a scholar of anti-semitism (not that you have to be one to see the problem of dual loyalty).

https://bsky.app/profile/equusonthebuse ... d3jzihys2y

Don't know who James Vaughan is but comparing Polanski's views to Oswald Mosley smacks of cheapskate attention seeking.

He's a professor who's studied anti-semitism for 15 years. He's saying that's the history of the trope. He says elsewhere that Polanski isn't prejudiced.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 3:14 pm I think Zack's sensible enough to heed this constructive criticism. But again, how do you get to lead a (now) mainstream party of the left with this level of stupidity?

Even worse are the comments BTL in response to James Vaughan, who is a scholar of anti-semitism (not that you have to be one to see the problem of dual loyalty).

https://bsky.app/profile/equusonthebuse ... d3jzihys2y

Oh god, the responses are really something .

It's dire, isn't it? How do they think "dual loyalty" ends up for any ethnic minority in the UK?

In other news, an example here of how some on the left don't want to face up to what the Green platform really is. Apparently it's a cheap gotcha to quote poiicies from "last year" back, because "hope".

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:03 pm Fuck off Zack

Very progressive to say immigrants are great, as they'll do all the crap jobs.

I'd actually defend him here. That's not his only argument for migration. He's just making this particular argument as it's one that lots of "migration sceptic" people would accept. And those people aren't by any means all people who look down on care workers or whoever.

We've got the Tories now, not even in "tens of thousands" territory, but negative net migration territory. I think Zack's point here is "You and I won't be doing those jobs", and that's fine.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 12:49 pm It's dire, isn't it? How do they think "dual loyalty" ends up for any ethnic minority in the UK?

In other news, an example here of how some on the left don't want to face up to what the Green platform really is. Apparently it's a cheap gotcha to quote poiicies from "last year" back, because "hope".

I mean it's not a shock to find out the chief rabbi is a Zionist and is supportive of Israel. I saw the list of policies yesterday and noted how the third renationalised rail was already been done along with a couple of others.

In fairness to them, they would have voted for that stuff, I'm sure.

Perhaps Polanski at some time will attempt some sort of "star chamber" on policy, where they make a serious attempt to get expenditure and tax into some sort of order. He's not doing that yet, if anything heading in a more stridently populist direction. His policies, while they exist, in the most recent manifesto are fair game.

Labour MP Uma Kumaran on Polanski.

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/uma- ... 61995.html

His comments were dripping with snobbery - and are completely ignorant of the enormous and varied contribution that care workers make across our city and country.

It’s not the job of migrants to fill in if Zack Polanski thinks something is beneath him.

I am a proud Londoner. As the daughter of refugees, I know that migration has shaped the city we live in, and that migrants still make a fantastic contribution to modern Britain, from the arts to business, and from our health service to academia.

So, I challenged his demeaning language.

As Stratford and Bow’s Labour MP, I represent hundreds of care workers in Parliament- and thousands of people who, like me, have first-hand experience of just how important their work is.

Polanski was a knob towards Uma.

Sadly 'tell like it is cheeky chappy' is the route to power over seriousness. I'm the sort of voter Zack should be attracting as I inceasingly prioritise environmental issues. But I'll take a pass on Mr Polanski in No 10 thanks, especially while Putin's still in power. Don't mind the Greens acting as a ratchet on Labour as Farage did the Tories.

Polanski follows the same playbook as his fellow populist, Nigel Farage. Because they crave online adulation, they offer simple solutions to complex problems. And, when they get caught out, or on this occasion, expose themselves, they pretend it never happened. That we- not them- are the problem.
Zack Polanski can keep chasing fame. His party can keep mistaking protest for progress. No matter how radical their rhetoric, not a single life will be changed by populist attention-seeking.

Spot on.

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 12, 2025 11:05 am Sadly 'tell like it is cheeky chappy' is the route to power over seriousness. I'm the sort of voter Zack should be attracting as I inceasingly prioritise environmental issues. But I'll take a pass on Mr Polanski in No 10 thanks, especially while Putin's still in power. Don't mind the Greens acting as a ratchet on Labour as Farage did the Tories.

Polanski follows the same playbook as his fellow populist, Nigel Farage. Because they crave online adulation, they offer simple solutions to complex problems. And, when they get caught out, or on this occasion, expose themselves, they pretend it never happened. That we- not them- are the problem.
Zack Polanski can keep chasing fame. His party can keep mistaking protest for progress. No matter how radical their rhetoric, not a single life will be changed by populist attention-seeking.

I've never really heard Zack talk about green issues.

I've never really heard Zack talk about green issues

Haven't you heard this strategy explained?

All I've heard from the Farage Of The Left is NIMBYism, snobbery and simplistic monetary policy that a fourteen year old would be ashamed of.