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Oboogie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:44 pm That's because Starmer hates borders and doesn't think the US should defend theirs either!

(I think that was Robert Jenrick's comment, but it could have been Farage or Robinson).

Fuck me, seriously?

Who is this drivel supposed to be appeal to in the UK? Trump is unpopular even on the right. It's like Huddlestone yesterday talking about the BBC needing to "grovel" to Trump.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:06 am Trump is unpopular even on the right.

Really? Not what I've seen!
I don't know what percentage they represent but there seems to be no shortage of Vox poppers happy to go on camera saying, what this country needs is our own Donald Trump

They don't necessarily mean they approve of Trump when they say that. They say they want someone like him but on behalf of Britain. Which is ridiculous obviously. See Liz Truss.

More irregular verbs here. I am a measured commentator who points out facts. You are a cultist who attacks people.

Per David Henig and Steve Peers, Labour being "stuck on Brexit" at the moment is down to EU members dicking about and trying to get out of the deal the Commission struck. Edwin's not going to tell you that.

I'll give Edwin credit for being serious on tax- he points out that the rich do pay a lot of tax. But I guess the EU is his thing, and he has to play that for clicks.

Oh no, I can't believe you misrepresented me, says bloke who managed to get an article about how the Government was deregulating toxic chemicals from a consultation that floated mutual recognition in some cases. interesting that he thinks that building infrastructure and housing is right wing too.

The Tories are classic "not in our backyard" so I'm not sure how it's planning act is Tory. Labour have also always been more to the right on law and order than general.

They tend to balance it our with more social approaches to society such as legalisation of Homosexuality and so on.

This does shed new light on what happened last night.

It didn't make much sense that Number 10 would off its own bat just start mouthing off about a coup, for which there doesn't seem to be much evidence. There might be one, there might not.

I remember the Guardian in 2014 magicking up "Ed Miliband's bad summer" out of not very much.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:58 pm It didn't make much sense that Number 10 would off its own bat just start mouthing off about a coup, for which there doesn't seem to be much evidence. There might be one, there might not.

I remember the Guardian in 2014 magicking up "Ed Miliband's bad summer" out of not very much.

Do you think this will end with Starmer gone by this time next year?

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:40 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:58 pm It didn't make much sense that Number 10 would off its own bat just start mouthing off about a coup, for which there doesn't seem to be much evidence. There might be one, there might not.

I remember the Guardian in 2014 magicking up "Ed Miliband's bad summer" out of not very much.

Do you think this will end with Starmer gone by this time next year?

Starmer's just turned 63 and will probably be approaching 67 at the next election so he may not want to serve another term. That said, I can't see him stepping down more than a year out from the next election - what would be the point? Next year is far too early.

Perhaps. Jeremy Corbyn was 66 in 2015 but insisted he was spry enough to celebrate his 68th birthday in 10 Downing Street in 2017, having won the election.

Maybe not a good example. Mind you, I’d not begrudge Keir if he decides that he’s had enough when he’s 67.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:22 pm Perhaps. Jeremy Corbyn was 66 in 2015 but insisted he was spry enough to celebrate his 68th birthday in 10 Downing Street in 2017, having won the election.

Maybe not a good example. Mind you, I’d not begrudge Keir if he decides that he’s had enough when he’s 67.

I was thinking about Starmer being potentially (if he wins the next election) still in office at 72 - that would make him the oldest PM since Churchill.

I dunno. To me, it seems that Starmer has barely got started. He’s been given a cunt of a legacy.

The row with (and also within) the EU has been settled. This ought to be positive in the longer term. Assume this can't be put into the OBR projection until it's done.

Rachel Reeves to cut tax benefits for workers using salary sacrifice schemes to buy bikes
Chancellor expected to introduce new limit on how much can be spent on a bicycle through cycle to work scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -buy-bikes

Here's another crusade for someone who thinks nothing that sounds good should ever be cut.

But I'm amazed that there's no limit on it. It really is, as someone from the Treasury says, a subsidy to people to people with a very expensive hobby, whether they ride the bike to work or not (which I'm sure lots don't). Taking my experience as a basis, I got a very nice second hand ebike for £1,500. Would anyone need to go much over this?

Won't save all that much money, but it's more than a few youth clubs.

I've always thought it a bit weird that we're subsidising people to keep bikes in their sheds. As someone who has cycled to work since the early 90s, I've never had to take advantage of the scheme. But I know many people who have got free money and used it to buy bikes that only ever come out for a gentle spin at the weekend.
A legacy of the pre-banking crisis days when it seemed we had public money to burn.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:05 am

Rachel Reeves to cut tax benefits for workers using salary sacrifice schemes to buy bikes
Chancellor expected to introduce new limit on how much can be spent on a bicycle through cycle to work scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -buy-bikes

Here's another crusade for someone who thinks nothing that sounds good should ever be cut.

But I'm amazed that there's no limit on it. It really is, as someone from the Treasury says, a subsidy to people to people with a very expensive hobby, whether they ride the bike to work or not (which I'm sure lots don't). Taking my experience as a basis, I got a very nice second hand ebike for £1,500. Would anyone need to go much over this?

Won't save all that much money, but it's more than a few youth clubs.

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:19 am I've always thought it a bit weird that we're subsidising people to keep bikes in their sheds. As someone who has cycled to work since the early 90s, I've never had to take advantage of the scheme. But I know many people who have got free money and used it to buy bikes that only ever come out for a gentle spin at the weekend.
A legacy of the pre-banking crisis days when it seemed we had public money to burn.

It's surprising it lasted so long. My brother in law used it. I'm pretty sure he never cycled to work.

The cap used to be £1,000 but seems to have been abolished 6 years ago, as far as I can tell. Perhaps some London based Tory Spad argued very strongly for it, and they certainly need policies that people who went to university with him/her might like.

Subsidizing.a health activity isn't the worst idea, but there should be a limit on it. Seeing as we can barely afford to run a youth club in most areas.

Police and crime commissioners to be scrapped in England and Wales

Good stuff.

These were one of Hannan and Carswell's brilliant ideas (when both of them were far less appalling than now). Perhaps they'd like to chip in for the money wasted on them?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 10:05 am

Rachel Reeves to cut tax benefits for workers using salary sacrifice schemes to buy bikes
Chancellor expected to introduce new limit on how much can be spent on a bicycle through cycle to work scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -buy-bikes

Here's another crusade for someone who thinks nothing that sounds good should ever be cut.

But I'm amazed that there's no limit on it. It really is, as someone from the Treasury says, a subsidy to people to people with a very expensive hobby, whether they ride the bike to work or not (which I'm sure lots don't). Taking my experience as a basis, I got a very nice second hand ebike for £1,500. Would anyone need to go much over this?

Won't save all that much money, but it's more than a few youth clubs.

James Ball isn't happy about it as it will go down badly with middle class graduates who vote Labour.