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Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:00 am
by Philip Marlow
davidjay wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 2:10 pm The title's now been changed.
I know writers don’t usually pick their own headlines, but I suspect the original might’ve been a truer representation of her feelings on the matter.

Meanwhile in Germany…


Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:54 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Bastards.


Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:54 pm
by kreuzberger
People in a systematically starved area emerge with Riviera beach bodies. No shit.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 1:21 am
by Bones McCoy
They're bound to lose the Evangelical right after this.

Hopes of motherhood crushed after IVF embryos destroyed in Israel's Gaza offensive

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15npnzpd08o

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 8:55 am
by Boiler
Doubt it.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 12:27 pm
by Samanfur
They're not going to be from white, God-bothering, Christian, American parents. The evangelicals won't care.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 9:37 am
by Abernathy
I find myself in a degree of congruence with Mr. John Baine (aka “Attila the Stockbroker”) :
This is why Israeli policies are so utterly incomprehensible. For me there was only ever one justification for some kind of (not this) Israeli state, and it was an incredibly powerful one - the establishment of a place of safety after the unspeakable fact of the Holocaust.

Before the rise of the Nazis Herzl’s Zionist creed was a minority sect, dwarfed by the Bundists’ vision of a Jewish culture celebrated and strengthened in the diaspora where they lived. But the Holocaust wiped out Bundism to the point where most people who express an opinion on the current conflict appear to be unaware of its historical existence - and Zionism came into its own as a literal creed for survival.

Millions of Europeans could relate to that in some form. Some of us went to kibbutz as a statement of solidarity. But the justification for the state became less powerful as its brutality increased and now most people recoil in disgust. Revisionism and Kahanism have spat on the compassion felt by millions post Holocaust, and that is an utter tragedy not just for the brutalised Palestinians but for Jewish people throughout the world.

Antisemitism is a hate crime. When Netanyahu uses ‘antisemite’ as a description of literally anyone who opposes his actions in Gaza, the word loses its power and its meaning. And that is a double tragedy.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:11 pm
by davidjay
I do sometimes feel that Mr B is the ultimate student politician who never grew up, but his heart's undoubtedly in the right place and that's a good piece of analysis.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 12:42 pm
by Abernathy
Mad Mel’s been a bit quiet lately.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:37 pm
by Rosvanian
Abernathy wrote:Mad Mel’s been a bit quiet lately.
Kill 'em All says Mel. God is on our side.

Mel spend many years as a voice of authority on R4's The Moral Maze and is still, somehow, a Times columnist despite the fact that she is a unapologetic extremist with more in common with Hamas than the rest of us.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:29 am
by Bones McCoy
I think somebody might have done an undeclared act of war last night.

Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 11:22 pm
by mattomac
At this point he is putting his own people at harm.

Another populist loon