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Re: The Greens

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:40 am
by Tubby Isaacs
We haven't heard from Zack for a while, but he's popped up today as Mr Straight Talker about the USA, unlike silly deluded mainstream politicians who don't get that there's a problem. Detaching from the US would presumably involve a lot more defence spending, which seems pretty un-Zack. Unless what he actually means is the UK detaches itself from European defence. Which might cause a few problems for his EU aspirations.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:44 am
by Tubby Isaacs
I see he called for free buses for under 22s yesterday. Of course, anyone can call for more free stuff, but this is what the Greens should be doing. I'd have something like a Young Person's Railcard, that was reduced rather than free.

As others have said, he's doing all this talk from X. I have no idea why it's OK for him to use it but not the Government.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 11:18 am
by mattomac
Yeah a national railcard that subsidises travel perhaps you could limit it to say off peak or super off peak.

Would be nice on the 8-10 journeys I make to Cornwall a year.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 11:21 am
by Boiler
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:44 amAs others have said, he's doing all this talk from X. I have no idea why it's OK for him to use it but not the Government.
Because he's a hypocritical gobshite?

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I don't know if he has said the Government should leave X, in fairness to him. But lots of people who think the Government should get off their seem to be giving him an easy time.

He's popped up again with his NATO rubbish. And predictable populist rubbish about water, where he apparently expects sewage to be fixed with no increase to bills. You borrow a load of money, nationalize the companies, and it just happens.

I don't think I've ever seen a more vacuous politician of the left. But as the record company guy on the old Kit Kat advert said, he'll go along way.


Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 2:41 pm
by Youngian
Sounds like the bloke who signed up E17 (on a Boy Band documentary still on the iPlayer).
What makes you stand out?
We've got a dog.
I can work with that.

Does Zack want to form a pan European military superpower? Don’t understand where else his pitch takes him. Can't see it going down well with long standing Green peaceniks or Corbynista defectors.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 2:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Fast Show did something that channelled that advert. Or at least, so I imagine it does.


Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 4:11 pm
by Boiler
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 1:02 pm I don't know if he has said the Government should leave X, in fairness to him. But lots of people who think the Government should get off their seem to be giving him an easy time.

He's popped up again with his NATO rubbish. And predictable populist rubbish about water, where he apparently expects sewage to be fixed with no increase to bills. You borrow a load of money, nationalize the companies, and it just happens.

I don't think I've ever seen a more vacuous politician of the left. But as the record company guy on the old Kit Kat advert said, he'll go along way.

"Can't sing, can't act, can dance a little." Said of Fred Astaire.

However, it's the sort of crap the left, pseudo-Greens and Guardian BTLers love.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 7:42 pm
by The Weeping Angel

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I like that bit on cybersecurity. "Shit, we should have thought of that", says the National Cyber Security Centre.

These are just talking points to set against unilateral disarmament. "Well, Robin, I think you'll find the real issues are these other things that sound a bit more like something the Greens care about".

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:07 pm
by Youngian
a man with a phone, incapable of constructing thoughts in any format other than three paragraph tweets.
his politics are so clearly not rooted in any kind of deeper analysis or intellectual tradition. It's all just a surface-level synthesis

Like the band in the Kit Kat ad; 'he'll go far.'

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He's a man with a phone which doesn't have google on it, seeing he thinks nuclear warheads are leased from America (they aren't).

In the same thread, having posted this massive load of bollocks, he piously tells people to read what he's actually said, not what "Labour MPs" are saying he said.

Sadly, this "Those are smears, mannnn" stuff goes a long way on the left these days. Not least with people who misrepresent Starmer all the time.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He also says that the nukes don't work. This is a common talking point, based on some tests failing. It's not a new one either- the Carry on Disarming NME/CND video from 1989 has Frank Sidebottom in the intro saying that.

Do Russia's nukes work every time? I'd not be surprised to hear they were actually shit, because some grifting pal of Putin's had been involved. But I'm still not going to bomb Russia to find out.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:06 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Imagine if only half the nukes they send work...

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
mattomac wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2026 11:18 am Yeah a national railcard that subsidises travel perhaps you could limit it to say off peak or super off peak.

Would be nice on the 8-10 journeys I make to Cornwall a year.
The Lib Dems pre 2010 were in favour of that, and got Norman Baker appointed as rail minister. It was never heard again.

Doubtless the Lib Dems fought this like David Brent fought the closure of his branch when he got promoted (before failing the medical). "You should have seen me in there", added Ed "Mad Dog" Davey, who now fancies himself leading Europe against Trump.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2026 11:34 pm
by The Weeping Angel

Re: The Greens

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 8:16 am
by Youngian
A seat like Walthamstow will have a potentially large audience for the Greens but enough to flip this solidly Labour seat?
Green Party polling numbers haven't been that good since Zack took over.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:19 am
by mattomac
They keep posting Find Out Now figures which frankly haven't been tested and look dubiously off compared to everyone else to the point you assume they have too many subsects of certain parties.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:57 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 8:16 am A seat like Walthamstow will have a potentially large audience for the Greens but enough to flip this solidly Labour seat?
Green Party polling numbers haven't been that good since Zack took over.
Depends how many seats they’re really fighting. I reckon they’ll do very well in borough elections there. Maybe that’ll dent their popularity. They didn’t do all that well in Bristol when the regional mayoralty was up.

Re: The Greens

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 6:21 pm
by The Weeping Angel


I can't believe that a populist party would lie so shamelessly.