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Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:45 am
by Youngian
Bobbies on the beat sets my teeth on edge.
You don't want to see yobbos get a clip round the ear?

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 10:41 am
by The Weeping Angel


Most of the responses BTL are saying so, you want to create a British-style ICE.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 11:48 am
by Boiler
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 10:41 am

Most of the responses BTL are saying so, you want to create a British-style ICE.
Well, if the media gets its wet dream of a Reform government with Grifter Nigel in charge, I suspect a British ICE will be high on their agenda.

Anyway, don't we have something similar already?

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 1:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
National Crime Agency is supposed to be something similar. You can always make it bigger, move other bodies into it. The Serious Fraud Office isn't yet part of it, I presume it will be. The NCA and predecessors have never got close to the status of the FBI with the public, nor (I suspect) among serious criminals. There's something to be said for having something that does have more of that status.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 6:05 pm
by Watchman
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:40 am Go for the bureaucratic one. Bobbies on the beat sets my teeth on edge.
As I approach 70 years on this rock, I still do not have a recollection of a "bobby on every street corner"

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 8:06 pm
by davidjay
Watchman wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2026 6:05 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 10:40 am Go for the bureaucratic one. Bobbies on the beat sets my teeth on edge.
As I approach 70 years on this rock, I still do not have a recollection of a "bobby on every street corner"
And the ones who were on the beat were often the most corrupt bigots in town.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2026 10:42 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Meanwhile, in other news.


Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 9:04 am
by Youngian
Its a discussion for another day but the developed world shouldn't expect anything more than modest blips and be happy their economies aren't shrinking. See Japan.

Shadow chancellor Mel Stride said the figures showed economic growth was "still flatlining".

The UK economy grew by a faster-than-expected 0.3% in November after car production rebounded and the services sector got a boost.

Growth was driven by an increase in industrial output, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, helped by the return to production at Jaguar Land Rover's facilities following the cyber-attack at the carmaker.

With the Budget on 26 November, there was also an increase in services, particularly in activities such as accounting and tax consultancy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8d041pp85mo

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 9:10 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Especially when business is getting quite a lot of extra costs, with the minimum wage, workers rights and tax.

My feeling has been that it’ll struggle to adapt to all three. But it would be great news if it can. So far it’s going ok.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 9:42 am
by Youngian
Tax rises fuel growth in accountancy services might not be a big win. What is music to business's ears is political stability.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 1:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The business confidence rise was in services more generally, wasn't it?

In other news, more of that "Reform Lite" stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -north-sea

UK among 10 countries to build 100GW wind power grid in North Sea
Energy secretary Ed Miliband says clean energy project is part of efforts to leave ‘the fossil fuel rollercoaster’

The UK and nine other European countries have agreed to accelerate the rollout of offshore windfarms in the 2030s and build a power grid in the North Sea, in a landmark pact to turn the ageing oil basin into a “clean energy reservoir”.

They will build windfarms at sea that directly connect to various countries through high-voltage subsea cables, under plans that are expected to provide 100 gigawatts (GW) of offshore wind power, or enough electricity capacity to power 143m homes.

The commitment, which will be set out in the “Hamburg declaration”, is expected to be signed on Monday by energy ministers from the UK, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Norway.
What does Andy Burnham add to this? Or Zack Polanski, come to think of it?

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 1:34 pm
by Killer Whale
Anyone else get the feeling that this news was rushed out in response to Trump's thing about Europe failing because of 'windmills' the other day?

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 6:55 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Jan 26, 2026 1:26 pm The business confidence rise was in services more generally, wasn't it?

In other news, more of that "Reform Lite" stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -north-sea

UK among 10 countries to build 100GW wind power grid in North Sea
Energy secretary Ed Miliband says clean energy project is part of efforts to leave ‘the fossil fuel rollercoaster’

The UK and nine other European countries have agreed to accelerate the rollout of offshore windfarms in the 2030s and build a power grid in the North Sea, in a landmark pact to turn the ageing oil basin into a “clean energy reservoir”.

They will build windfarms at sea that directly connect to various countries through high-voltage subsea cables, under plans that are expected to provide 100 gigawatts (GW) of offshore wind power, or enough electricity capacity to power 143m homes.

The commitment, which will be set out in the “Hamburg declaration”, is expected to be signed on Monday by energy ministers from the UK, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Norway.
What does Andy Burnham add to this? Or Zack Polanski, come to think of it?
I've never heard Polanski really talk about climate change.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 7:21 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He thinks it's already in the bank, and he's probably right.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 8:41 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I keep hoping he'll come out against net zero.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2026 10:44 pm
by Youngian
Zack’s views on immigration appear to endorse infinite exponential population expansion which is a peculiar position for an ecologist.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 6:43 am
by Yug
One assumes he's fine with them sleeping in shop doorways, or is he going to change his tune about house building?

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 8:44 am
by Boiler
This is what pisses me off about the Farage of the Left that is Polanski: he'll split the Labour vote by appealing to Guardianistas and the disenfranchised Corbynites whilst spouting simplistic, easily digested soundbites.

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:05 am
by Killer Whale
I mean, this is kind of what populism is...

Re: Labour Government 2024 - ?

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:58 am
by Tubby Isaacs
You can’t really blame them for contesting by-elections. Labour will still have a massive majority.