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There's no way he would come back, because it's too much like hard work. He will only run for office when he's guaranteed to win - mayor, party leader, Prime Minister; for different reasons he was a cert for them all. If by some chance he did win a by-election he'd have to build a following amongst MPs, challenge the incumbent, see off Farage and then fight the government. It's far easier to keep writing, making speeches and dropping hints every time funds are low.

Are you saying our world-beating former Prime Minister is a lazy scrounging cunt?



Sounds fair.

davidjay wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 9:37 pm There's no way he would come back, because it's too much like hard work. He will only run for office when he's guaranteed to win - mayor, party leader, Prime Minister; for different reasons he was a cert for them all. If by some chance he did win a by-election he'd have to build a following amongst MPs, challenge the incumbent, see off Farage and then fight the government. It's far easier to keep writing, making speeches and dropping hints every time funds are low.

In every case, he was either taking on someone who was on the ropes, or already washed up. He didn't so much campaign as wait for a coronation.

Winter 2019 was the closest he ever got to actually fighting to win, against a lacklustre Corbyn. All the cheap (but crowd-pleasing) stunts came out in the last week or so. That, plus Fargle standing aside, did it for him.

When you look back at 2019, remembering the absolute, total chaos Labour were in and that the Tories slogan of "Let's get the bloody thing finished with" (or similar) was EXACTLY what a huge chunk of the electorate wanted, you have to wonder what sort of clown would have agreed to an election being called.

PM Spaffer and Forrin Secretary Raab are both extremely reserved about the breaking Afghan data leak news.

Hundreds of thousands of lives at risk, all just jolly japes

This is perhaps what I find most appalling about the literally disastrous tenure of Johnson as Prime Minister of the UK (what the FUCK were we thinking ?).

The avoidable deaths of some 26,000 souls were directly attributable to Johnson’s lackadaisical incompetence. Just think about that.

And Johnson himself clearly does not give a flying fuck about that.

The bastard should be behind bars.

That's not where I'd put him

This is what you get when you elect a person who has all the very easy answers to complex issues, lets see if the country learns.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:43 pm This is perhaps what I find most appalling about the literally disastrous tenure of Johnson as Prime Minister of the UK (what the FUCK were we thinking ?).

ABC: Anyone But Corbyn. How many people on here held their noses and voted Labour in 2019, given the bellyaching from a good few about Corbyn?

Also, many were bored with the prevarication and wittering about Brexit. He promised to get it done, and did. What we got was a fucking mess, grant you and yet even so, people are still wittering on about it.

I still remember sitting in the York Tap with a mate that weekend after the GE drowning our sorrows*: I'd gone up on an expensive railtour and met my mate, who nearly punched the lights out of some drunken twats off to the races when one of them crashed into him.

*that was the day I learned that star anise has no fucking place in beer, ever.

mattomac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:19 pm This is what you get when you elect a person who has all the very easy answers to complex issues, lets see if the country learns.

It won't. Many have already written Covid off as a hoax and an experiment in control anyway, people aren't dying in their thousands any more, the vaccines aren't even offered to staff in care settings now let alone folk previously felt to be vulnerable (like me and over-65s in general), "so what".

Next they'll fall for Farage and his easy solutions about small fucking boats, you see.

It was rhetorical.

I know it was, but sadly...

Boiler wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:21 pmAlso, many were bored with the prevarication and wittering about Brexit. He promised to get it done, and did. What we got was a fucking mess, grant you and yet even so, people are still wittering on about it.

My mum, who as I've mentioned before voted Tory for the first time in 2019 and whined to me the next morning that, "I just wanted to get Brexit done!" now swears blind that she voted Labour, despite the fact that she told me that she'd voted Tory only after she'd done it.

Denial is a powerful thing, and we'll see it again. People will lie to themselves to the nth degree to avoid admitting that they made a mistake, and will make the same mistake all over again as a result.

What has caught my eye is that snide little shit Cummings has come in for some severe criticism too.

Another little cunt who needs firing into the Sun.

Boiler wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 7:21 pm
ABC: Anyone But Corbyn. How many people on here held their noses and voted Labour in 2019, given the bellyaching from a good few about Corbyn?

In case you didn't get it, I used the phrase "what were we thinking of?" rhetorically.

For my part, although I was in theory signed up to ABC (Anyone But Corbyn) philosophy, I still recognised the absolute imperative of electing a Labour government and keeping the albino orangutan away from Downing Street. Even if it was led by Corbyn. We were stuck with the jam-making humourless bearded incompetent, and we needed just to bite the bullet and crack on - I was never going to vote anything other than Labour. As always, the very worst Labour government was still going to be a billion times better than the very best Tory government.

Boiler wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:29 pm What has caught my eye is that snide little shit Cummings has come in for some severe criticism too.

Another little cunt who needs firing into the Sun.

Readers may recall when Coca Cola produces bottles with names on the labels.

I'm sure a spirits company would do well by doing something roughly similar.
Roll up for our Johnson, Cummings, Gove, Mogg, Hancock, Patel six-pack.

Gove was on the radio this morning, doing the usual "While I accept this minor charge, I think you'll find that actually this totally exonerates us...." routine. Says that the enquiry was a 'judge-led' enquiry, while actually what we needed was a scientific one and where's the peer reviewed evidence, and well, it was very frantic and mistakes were bound to be made, and besides, what were you doing back then and everyone knows it was the Chinese secret service and blah...

I understand that Gove and Vine's kids hate them both. Fair play to them.

while actually what we needed was a scientific one and where's the peer reviewed evidence

And the interviewer didn’t needle him with his "had enough of experts" quote?
Gove would have retorted with "I was referring to economists." Although the first time in the history of this dubious discipline, Brexit formed a consensus among economists who turned out to have made the right call.

They got austerity right too.