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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 10:04 pm
by Abernathy
Very pleased to see that the government today won its case against Medpro, and that Baroness Senga of Shettleston *
has been ordered to pay back £122 million of misappropriated cash.
* hat tip : Kreuzberger of this parish.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 10:08 pm
by Boiler
But what of all the others? Seems she's just become the fall girl for all this and no doubt it'll be mired in the courts for years.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 10:48 pm
by Abernathy
The others are in the government’s sights. It might take some time, but they do seem to be well on course to get lots of our money back.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 11:19 pm
by Boiler
I wish I shared your optimism.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:25 am
by Watchman
Now they have proved a case against a high profile fraud, we can look for a domino effect
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 8:40 am
by davidjay
I can see a few deals being struck to prevent potentially embarrassing court cases.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:25 pm
by Andy McDandy
On the surface, it seems so blatant, so obvious, that a great many people not only saw an opportunity to profit from Covid, but were ready and waiting. Companies set up in a morning, or existing on bits of paper in desk drawers. The entire VIP lane. The sidelining of reputable companies in favour of these blank entities. But at the crucial point, a missing connection. Nobody saying anything on record. Reminds me of a quote from the film JFK:
There's been no vote. Nothing's on paper. There's no one to blame. It's as old as the crucifixion. A military firing squad: five bullets, one blank. No one's guilty, because everyone in the power structure who knows anything has a plausible deniability. There are no compromising connections except at the most secret point. But what's paramount is that it must succeed. No matter how many die, no matter how much it costs, the perpetrators must be on the winning side and never subject to prosecution for anything by anyone.
It also reminds me of the Brexit campaign - all meetings held under Chatham House rule - nothing directly attributed to any individual, everything being a group decision, united front, then when it all falls apart, everyone can claim that they weren't in the room, nothing to do with me, just following orders. And then, there's the defence - it was an emergency, normal rules had to be suspended, don't blame us, we were just doing our best, what would you have done differently,
yeah, well, you weren't in charge, were you, in fact what the fuck were you doing all that time?
Mone's the patsy - guilty as hell, but never really one of us, bit brash, bit obvious, couldn't keep her mouth shut.
Every one of the fuckers deserves a fucking awful fate.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:39 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The VIP Lane just sounds more astonishing as time goes on. Surely the response of a no-nonsense Monkfish style minister would be "Who supplies this stuff normally? Get them on the blower now!!!!" That's how they did the vaccine- they got in Kate Bingham (who was wrongly ridiculed as a crony) who knew about stuff. Dido Harding was a less obvious appointment, but had some management experience and actually got testing up to a decent level (albeit she was less successful with tracing). Why was PPE done via personal recommendations from other Tories?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:35 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:39 pm
The VIP Lane just sounds more astonishing as time goes on. Surely the response of a no-nonsense Monkfish style minister would be "Who supplies this stuff normally? Get them on the blower now!!!!" That's how they did the vaccine- they got in Kate Bingham (who was wrongly ridiculed as a crony) who knew about stuff. Dido Harding was a less obvious appointment, but had some management experience and actually got testing up to a decent level (albeit she was less successful with tracing). Why was PPE done via personal recommendations from other Tories?
I can only think that's how they always conduct their business.
How else would a chump like Cameron land a string of six-figure salaries.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2025 5:26 am
by Andy McDandy
Chumocracy as they call it. Treating it all as a big laugh and opportunity to raid the tuck shop.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 6:41 pm
by Abernathy
The Tory conference seems to be very sparsely attended, if the audience shots on the early evening news bulletin. are any guide.
They could be a dying party.
Sir Mel Stride, who is apparently the Shadow Chancellor, was giving his big speech today, full of mad ideas like cutting the benefits bill massively, withdrawing help for people with mental health disorders, and offering young voters some sort of NI refund/bribe to persuade them to vote Tory.
I didn’t realise that Mel Stride was a Sir, but then I remembered that when they were still the government, the Tories spent the dying days of their administration handing out knighthoods to each other like fucking sweeties at a Xmas panto. Every Tory you see these days is Sir Digby Fuckpig or something. Except Nadine Dorries of course.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:00 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Where are they getting all this tax cuts stuff from? Do they think public services falling to bits didn't hurt them in power?
Funny how they didn't do any of these obvious benefit cuts when they were in power.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:36 pm
by Spoonman
Apparently these were being given out at the CPC - can you spot the gaffe?

Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:07 am
by Lardboy
Are we sure it's not a ploy to get us all talking about it? Any publicity is good publicity, surely?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:42 am
by Boiler
Lardboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:07 am
Are we sure it's not a ploy to get us all talking about it? Any publicity is good publicity, surely?
Well, it's a tactic that works for Forage.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 1:11 pm
by Yug
Lardboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 9:07 am
Are we sure it's not a ploy to get us all talking about it? Any publicity is good publicity, surely?
It's not a particularly good look when people are saying the people who want to govern* the country can't even spell the country's name.
*Should I correct that to 'the people who were born to rule the country'?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 1:15 pm
by Andy McDandy
Yug wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 1:11 pm
It's not a particularly good look when people are saying the people who want to govern* the country can't even spell the country's name.
*Should I correct that to 'the people who believe they were born to rule the country'?
FTFY.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 6:29 pm
by mattomac
There ideas seem to be using public money to fund special interest groups. Giving 5k to first time house buyers and anyone who can rig the system is never a good use of public money.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 8:03 pm
by Andy McDandy
Tory thinking in a nutshell. Everyone has a price, buy them off.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 10:29 pm
by Bones McCoy
mattomac wrote: ↑Tue Oct 07, 2025 6:29 pm
There ideas seem to be using public money to fund special interest groups. Giving 5k to first time house buyers and anyone who can rig the system is never a good use of public money.
Because further inflating house prices is bound to solve everything.
(If you're already a multi-property landlord, then maybe).