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Oboogie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 3:16 pm It appears that at least one of the causes for this latest drama is a proposed policy in support of trans-rights. To the surprise of no-one at all, followers of a religion which regards homosexuality as harem are not overly keen on trans people. I predicted this would be an issue when YourParty was first announced - I can't find the post so I'm denied a smug 'told you so' moment (maybe I posted it elsewhere?), the fact that the leadership failed to predict it tells us something.

I believe all those who won the Palestinian issue voted against The Renters rights bill. The problem is that’s one of the best more liberally socialist bills in the last few decades. If they can’t back that then how are they going form a party of the left? Just a point Corbyn did vote for it.

They also opposed VAT on school fees because there’s a small (but doubtless vocal) group committed to Muslim private schools, and Orthodox Jewish private schools. Jez was in favour.

Why did Jez think he’d get a coherent party out of this? Loose group of independents with some foreign policy issues in common, that was how to do it.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 11:33 am They also opposed VAT on school fees because there’s a small (but doubtless vocal) group committed to Muslim private schools, and Orthodox Jewish private schools. Jez was in favour.

Why did Jez think he’d get a coherent party out of this? Loose group of independents with some foreign policy issues in common, that was how to do it.

Because from the day he became Labour leader he's been surrounded by disciples telling him that he's destined to become Prime Minister if only he can get rid of the Zionists, globalists and traitors. Do that and the people will flock to him.

Why did Jez think he’d get a coherent party out of this? Loose group of independents with some foreign policy issues in common, that was how to do it.

Works for the Lib Dems.

There was an internet phrase I used to like back in the day, "Graphic design is my passion", used when someone knocked out a terrible image. We've come on a lot since then, because we now have AI to do that.

As the OP says, this is quite simply one of the worst things I've ever seen. 4 variations on pickaxes, all wrong. Something that looks like a flying saucer hovering over the not obviously Durham-like landscape. And, I think my favourite are the two things, which are presumably supposed to be a tower and winding wheel, but look more like a pylon with a Texas longhorn sat on top.

And she shouldn't be using AI at all.

One thing I hear from sections of the left is that the centre has no ideas, and yet there seems to be no ideas coming from Your Party. Other than we don't like Israel and Labour.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:54 pm One thing I hear from sections of the left is that the centre has no ideas, and yet there seems to be no ideas coming from Your Party. Other than we don't like Israel and Labour.

Very much so.
I watched Zarah Sultana's performance on Question Time last week and her answer to every question seemed to involve Genocide and austerity, both of which she claimed are Starmer's fault. That's all they've got, maybe because that's all they can agree on?
It was Pythonesque and came across as both childish and patronising but overwhelmingly bitter. Their only motivation is revenge on the Labour Party for daring to prefer a leadership which, rather than protest, actually implements change.

Shall we ask former Durham miners how many would like their grandchildren to go down t'pit?

davidjay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 12:19 am Shall we ask former Durham miners how many would like their grandchildren to go down t'pit?

And how many of those grandchildren think burning fossil fuels is the best source of energy?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:28 pm There was an internet phrase I used to like back in the day, "Graphic design is my passion", used when someone knocked out a terrible image. We've come on a lot since then, because we now have AI to do that.

As the OP says, this is quite simply one of the worst things I've ever seen. 4 variations on pickaxes, all wrong. Something that looks like a flying saucer hovering over the not obviously Durham-like landscape. And, I think my favourite are the two things, which are presumably supposed to be a tower and winding wheel, but look more like a pylon with a Texas longhorn sat on top.

And she shouldn't be using AI at all.

Looks like the cover of Grand Theft Auto

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 6:17 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:54 pm One thing I hear from sections of the left is that the centre has no ideas, and yet there seems to be no ideas coming from Your Party. Other than we don't like Israel and Labour.

Very much so.
I watched Zarah Sultana's performance on Question Time last week and her answer to every question seemed to involve Genocide and austerity, both of which she claimed are Starmer's fault. That's all they've got, maybe because that's all they can agree on?
It was Pythonesque and came across as both childish and patronising but overwhelmingly bitter. Their only motivation is revenge on the Labour Party for daring to prefer a leadership which, rather than protest, actually implements change.

And the wealth tax. This is such an obvious political issue that Jez never mentioned it when he was leader of Labour.

What's that building on that image supposed to be? Redhills? (which I hadn't heard about till yesterday). It doesn't look anything like it.

I've for the very first time used an AI picture generator. It's come up with a rather traditional image, but it's got a recognizable Durham Cathedral in the background, and the clothes look fairly authentic for working class people in about the 30s, and a there's a half decent banner.

It's better than Sultana's effort.

More from Team Jez, helpfully taking the heat off Labour.

This advertisement from my YouTube caught my eye, looks vaguely familiar.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 17, 2025 10:11 am I've for the very first time used an AI picture generator. It's come up with a rather traditional image, but it's got a recognizable Durham Cathedral in the background, and the clothes look fairly authentic for working class people in about the 30s, and a there's a half decent banner.

It's better than Sultana's effort.

If it's one thing that's going to piss off Bluesky it's the use of AI.

It's heartwarming to see how proper socialists stick together and show so much respect for each other

Jeremy Corbyn has not been invited to or was aware of a rally hosted by Zarah Sultana that is set to take place on the eve of the Your Party conference, his spokesperson confirmed to Sky News.

This is despite former Labour leader Mr Corbyn and ex-Labour MP Ms Sultana co-launching the party in July.

She has now announced a rally in Liverpool on Friday 28 November for those wanting an "unapologetically socialist, anti-Zionist, anti-imperialist programme".

On social media, Ms Sultana called it "the eve of conference Your Party rally".

However, it is not an official Your Party event - and the tickets are being sold via her personal Action Network campaign.

A spokesperson for Mr Corbyn confirmed he was not aware of the event or invited to it, nor was anyone in his office...

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corby ... e-13472411

Just how important is anti-Zionism to the electorate? It wasn't in 2029 and it certainly isn't now.

Israel will have created a few more anti-Zionists since then. But yeah, it’s not that important to the overall electorate, and the Greens mostly cover the ground.

davidjay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:17 pm Just how important is anti-Zionism to the electorate? It wasn't in 2029 and it certainly isn't now.

I can't find a single poll which even mentions Israel/Palestine as a top issue for the electorate, has anybody else seen one?