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									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:02 pm
					by RedSparrows
					satnav wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:28 pm
I wonder when they will start to list the 'daft EU regulations'.
It's been 84 years.gif
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:23 am
					by Youngian
					Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:49 pm
"Sorry, Ms Postgraduate, you can't come here and pay £25k tuition fees, because not enough old people have retired to Benidorm."
More deaths from old age and fewer babies means loads of them will be able to come here.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:57 am
					by Andy McDandy
					Hang on, if we're factoring in birth and death rates, what if the former is greater than the....
Plenty of work for thugs with lead pipes and no morals* in Tice's brave new world.
*Reference to "V for Vendetta" by Alan Moore, m'lud. In the dystopian setting of the novel, it's an open secret that the "retirement villages" old people are shipped out to are death camps. What's not so well known is that the government are not prepared to spend money on installing gas chambers and the like, when there's a plentiful supply of thugs with clubs.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:47 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:23 am
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:49 pm
"Sorry, Ms Postgraduate, you can't come here and pay £25k tuition fees, because not enough old people have retired to Benidorm."
More deaths from old age and fewer babies means loads of them will be able to come here.
Is that what they mean? I assume they're talking about net migration, not population.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:28 pm
					by satnav
					Farage is now attacking junior doctors for making 'unreasonable pay demands,' this is the bloke who demanded £1.5m to spend a month on 'I'm a Celebrity get me out of here'.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:28 pm
					by Malcolm Armsteen
					Did I mention that the man's a cunt?
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:38 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					satnav wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:28 pm
Farage is now attacking junior doctors for making 'unreasonable pay demands,' this is the bloke who demanded £1.5m to spend a month on 'I'm a Celebrity get me out of here'.
Lots of the "Fuck politicians!" people who might vote Reform are probably sympathetic to junior doctors. This doesn't seem to be very smart tactics. Nor is Reform talking Labour up as a big threat.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:08 am
					by Youngian
					Schroedinger’s workers: Low paid victims of mass immigrant cheap labour and greedy striking layabouts who want something for nothing.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:19 pm
					by Andy McDandy
					https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -reform-uk
John Crace takes aim. 
Richard Tice – leader in the sense that he isn’t really the leader at all, just an interim presenter on the Shopping Channel
Dickie is no communicator. He looks and acts like a charisma-free 1980s time-share salesman. Someone you instinctively mistrust. Someone extremely easy to dislike.
Dickie was adamant that people were here for his optimism. Just as he was convinced that he – a multimillionaire from the Isle of Wight – was the authentic voice of the British working class.
Ouch!
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:38 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Absolutely bottled it. The by-election is happening. No money at all is saved by not standing.
Doubtless the same attitude was taken to the unnecessary by-elections called by Douglas Carswell and Mark Reckless, right?
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:28 pm
					by Youngian
					Reform’s money is saved. Do they have any big donors beyond Farage hustling the membership?
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:07 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Reform's best council by-election performance.
Clearly with all these candidates, it's not a very fypical by-election.  Lots of votes for sundry independents, some of which would go to Reform in a general election. On the other hand, they did lose to the Tories and Labour, in Clacton. So take that as you will.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:05 pm
					by Youngian
					“Many, many.” In your dreams, Dave
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:22 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					One of their ilk (though might have been SDP) was telling us that an "independent" (ie bonehead populist) could win Wellingborough.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:36 pm
					by mattomac
					Problem with Reform is they are only polling slightly higher than they were and in 4 by elections they should have seen a performance they didn’t.
Probably avoiding one by election as it might burst their bubble.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 10:00 am
					by Youngian
					Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:07 pm
Reform's best council by-election performance.
Clearly with all these candidates, it's not a very fypical by-election.  Lots of votes for sundry independents, some of which would go to Reform in a general election. On the other hand, they did lose to the Tories and Labour, in Clacton. So take that as you will.
One man could unite the nutter vote. Which in Clacton is substantial 
Nigel Farage has admitted he is "more seriously than ever before" considering a return to frontline politics after new polling indicated he would comfortably win a former Ukip seat.
A survey commissioned by Arron Banks, a ex-Ukip donor who also played a key role alongside Farage during the Brexit referendum, suggested that the GB News presenter would easily win in the constituency of Clacton in Essex. 
https://www.gbnews.com/politics/nigel-f ... ll-clacton 
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:07 am
					by Andy McDandy
					Other than the source, the subject, and the reporter, I'm finding that absolutely trustworthy.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:28 pm
					by Tubby Isaacs
					Douglas Carswell won by 3,400 in 2015 when the Tories had copied UKIP's main policy and had a popular leader.
It's very plausible Farage would win it by a similar margin.
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:18 pm
					by Bones McCoy
					Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:05 pm
“Many, many.” In your dreams, Dave
What if I suggested that most of their "street strength" is the same people.
 
							 
			
					
									Re: Reform Party
					Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:25 pm
					by Spoonman
					Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:28 pm
Douglas Carswell won by 3,400 in 2015 when the Tories had copied UKIP's main policy and had a popular leader.
It's very plausible Farage would win it by a similar margin.
He may well win, but would he actually do any MP work or simply become a far-right version of George Galloway?
Like Andy points out more with slightly less bite, that report has all the hallmarks of three separate parties blowing smoke up each other's arseholes.