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Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 11:55 am
by Youngian
Miriam doesn't solve this contradiction in her article as she claims but points out the infinite exponential increase in the immigration population isn't sustainable. But the native population doing same is for some unexplained reason (see screen shot below for Tweet content)
https://x.com/miriam_cates/status/1917592428850340087?t=SPXge1c-TtDJRuwmW_UQjw&s=19
If Ms Cates can learn anything from Paul Erlich it is that human beings are innovative and are able to adjust to new paradigms. So don't panic about depopulation.
Yet even if mass immigration has been a palliative, it is not a solution. First-generation immigrants often have more children than native Brits, but then fertility rates quickly decline. Thus, even more people must be imported to prop up the workforce and pay for pensions and welfare, and mass immigration becomes a giant Ponzi scheme.
Another reason the birth rate crisis is ignored is the lingering myth of overpopulation. In 1968, the publication of Paul Erlich’s book The Population Bomb steeped the West in Malthusian pessimism, popularising the belief that the Earth cannot sustain more people. https://conservativehome.com/2025/04/30/miriam-cates-britain-needs-more-babies-and-the-time-to-start-doing-something-about-it-is-now/
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 12:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The main way that government deal with ageing populations is higher taxes, with pensions and healthcare spending growing. Nobody would mistake Rishi Sunak for a big state spender, but the demographic pressures make the overall figures look like Harold Wilson 1974 leftism, except with far fewer council houses and soldiers. I don't see Kemi embracing higher taxes as a solution.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 12:13 pm
by Youngian
Tried to ask Blue Labour scourge of immigrants Jonathan Hinder MP whether he thinks depopulation in towns in his region like Burnley and Bolton should be welcomed. It's not a gotcha I'm genuinely interested but no reply was forthcoming. If he answered that depopulation is bad he risks looking like a weird racist who wants to badger white women to have more babies like Cates. If he believes depopulation to be a good thing than he has to answer some serious questions about the economic problems this causes. And he hasn't done any serious thinking beyond 'immigrants bad.'
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 12:16 pm
by Killer Whale
First person that brings to market an AI robot that can wipe a dementia patient's arse will become an overnight billionaire.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 12:55 pm
by Youngian
Japan's high investment in robot arse wipers over importing Philippinos has so far been unspectular.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/0 ... re-robots/
Robots might well have the cognitive abilities of a child when I die and can empty the bins. But anything more complex like roofing or elderly care sounds unlikely.
Zach Polanski defending the need for high immigration to tackle labour shortages was also silent when reminding him that lower populations are long standing goal of environmental movements.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Zack was a Lib Dem till 2017, so seems like he's been on a personal journey, to say the least. He's now challenging for the leadership, on the grounds that Carla Denyer isn't enthusiastic enough or something. Carla's looked the part to me when I've seen her, and I wonder if her lack of enthusiasm reflects her unease with some of the stuff that gets foisted on Green leaders by their grassroots.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:57 pm
by Killer Whale
Youngian wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 12:55 pm
Robots might well have the cognitive abilities of a child when I die and can empty the bins. But anything more complex like roofing or elderly care sounds unlikely.
Seems a bit inhumane to expect the elderly to put up with mechanised care. You (one, I mean) wouldn't accept it for babies, after all.
Maybe we've been looking at this from the wrong angle: Treating care work as a well-paid, skilled profession rather than the unskilled, 'just women's work, really' job that it is currently, would be a start.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Jonathan Hinder seems deeply unimpressive. There are some proper bozos in the Red Wall. Bassetlaw is now represented by Jo White, who is John Mann's wife. She's helpfully weighed in with advice for Starmer like bringing in digital ID cards, on which I'm agnostic but would probably be pretty expensive. Other nuggets she's come up with are sorting out GP access and reducing cost of living. I'm sure Sir Keir's not thought of these issues before.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 5:38 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 12:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Kemi’s going with the WFA at PMQs because some Labour MPs want it restored. I thought she couldn’t commit to restoring it and wanted the triple lock restricted?
Absolutely shameless.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 1:56 pm
by mattomac
They still do that pointless twaddle?
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 2:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
PMQs? I don't watch it but it's important something like it happens. There are a few world leaders who citizens would like to see get questioned like that.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 5:06 pm
by Youngian
Bet there's a big crossover with 'Why do politicians shout and argue all the time?' and 'politicians, they're all the same and in it together'
People are full of shit.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 5:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The one not entirely disastrous result the Tories had in the local elections was in Buckinghamshire, where they were only 1 short of holding a majority. They only lost 3 councillors to Reform there, and 19 to the Lib Dems, but even so they did hold 48 (it's a large unitary council).
Give Kemi more time with "Two-tier Keir wants to give your job to Indians" and she might match the pitiful performance in Oxfordshire next door where "these clever people are bad and love the forrins" has gone about as well you'd expect.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 5:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This was also an actual question from the Leader of the Opposition.
Why has the prime minister broken his promise to cut energy bills by £300?
Did anybody think that this meant immediately? Seriously?
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 8:07 pm
by Abernathy
Indeed. A “have you stopped beating your wife ? “ sort of question. Pointless.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 10:26 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 11:00 pm
by Youngian
Is this a Jeremy Corbyn type smear, true?
As if the Indian diplomatic service hasn't anything better to do then launch a smear campaign against Kemi.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 8:44 am
by Boiler
I thought it was normal for posted workers to pay NI on their earnings abroad in their home country? When I worked in France in 2016 one of the very few forms I had to fill in then was a statement to the French government declaring that I would do this.
Re: Kemi Badenoch
Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 9:55 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 11:00 pm
Is this a Jeremy Corbyn type smear, true?
As if the Indian diplomatic service hasn't anything better to do then launch a smear campaign against Kemi.
Indians are dimwits being manipulated by the British Government, says Kemi, always a winning argument with developing countries. Rishi Sunak must be doing his nut at this rubbish.
The focus on leaks is quite Trumpian too. Leaks, to most people, are something that happens in politics, welcome to test match cricket. Kemi, like Trump, sees them as an outrage, except when it's somebody leaking bad stuff about Hilary Clinton or Rachel Reeves.