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The Tories want a target apparently I assume it’s a thick attempt at a trap, then again Labour have demostrated themselves to very good at falling for that.

This does seem like an odd subject for Opposition Day.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 12:50 pm This does seem like an odd subject for Opposition Day.

Only the terminally twitter could come up with this.

She's got the "when Labour negotiates Britain loses" soundbite from the Chagos Islands that needs re-using.

There's no coming back from this for Labour. Their deal fails some tests Kemi pulled out of her arse.

But nice to see doing more of that straight talking she's famous for.

Q: Will you reverse this?

Badenoch says, although there are some positive things in the deal, overall it is problematic.

Anything that brings back European court of justice jurisdiction is unacceptable, she says.

She says she ended ECJ jurisdiction. She cannot believe it is coming back.

So not scrapping then? Keeping and moaning about it.

What does this even mean?

We want Defence linked to it. It's one of our strongest sectors and should be booming soon.

Badenoch says trade deals should reduce barriers to trade.

But she says she does not approve of the way the EU linked different issues.

Priti Patel, the shadow foreign secretary, says she does not see way the EU was allowed to link issues like defence and fishing.

What's the logic of this? They should have gone away and come back tmrw to do Defence? Kemi gets a better deal by what? Telling the EU they can't discuss stuff of mutual interest?

One of Kemi's red lines was not paying new money into EU funds. I assume this is referring to Defence. She's going to pass up the chance of all that extra high value trade over paying an admin fee?

That's absolutely mad.

Theresa May called. She wants her 2017 soundbites back. About all we're missing is "no deal is better than a bad deal". (To May's credit, she did move on from those to be a decent negotiator).

£9bn actually doesn't sound like much for a deal where there's so much trade. I wonder if she's walked into a trap here- OBR in the Autumn scores it and adds a couple of billion on the top? That might imply a level of comms genius we haven't seen so far, but I wonder? The Leader of the Opposition replies to the Budget. Could be a nice line for Reeves.

Badenoch says she is not persuaded by the government claim that this will be worth £9bn. She says the UK is a services economy. This deal does not help with services, she says.

She says she never signed a deal as business secretary that took the UK backwards. She was willing to walk away.

But Keir Starmer is never prepared to walk away, she says.

This might be Christopher Hope lying, but it seems Kemi has decided that "straight talking" is indeed the best policy. Running on trade friction may not be a winner for the party of business. Keep this up and they could add the likes of Beaconsfield, Windsor and Sevenoaks to Ed Davey's column.

Well she’s probably thick enough to do so.

Of course I’m not sure how she becomes PM.

She is as thick as mince and doesn't realise that "the wrong side of history" is a reference to the future. That's fine by me.

Service economy, eh? I thought one of their complaints was that we don't make things anymore.

It's all going as well as you'd expect.

The Conservatives have slipped to fourth place behind Labour, Reform UK and the Liberal Democrats, a major poll has found for the first time.

In a survey that will raise fresh questions about Kemi Badenoch’s leadership, the Tories were in fourth on 16 per cent of the vote. Sir Ed Davey’s Lib Dems have overtaken the party, the YouGov poll showed, with 17 per cent of the vote.

And, with Labour flatlining in second on 22 per cent, Reform UK continues to surge ahead, with Nigel Farage’s party rising one percentage point to 29 per cent.

They're laughing at you giving a lecture on honesty, Kemi.

Her performance was just eye-wateringly awful. She just repeatedly said everything was bad, gave no specifics (because there were none, but in her case you assume she just didn’t look), and seemed to think no one would check to see if what she’d claimed was true.

Utterly, utterly shite. Can’t see her making it to the end of the year.

She wasn't happy with the UK paying to be part of the EU Defence program. EU members pay into it as part of membership. I'm old enough to remember when being outside the EU but joining programs we supported was reckoned to be a good deal.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 5:30 pm Her performance was just eye-wateringly awful. She just repeatedly said everything was bad, gave no specifics (because there were none, but in her case you assume she just didn’t look), and seemed to think no one would check to see if what she’d claimed was true.

Utterly, utterly shite. Can’t see her making it to the end of the year.

She'll make it because nobody else wants the job.

davidjay wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 12:18 am

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 5:30 pm Her performance was just eye-wateringly awful. She just repeatedly said everything was bad, gave no specifics (because there were none, but in her case you assume she just didn’t look), and seemed to think no one would check to see if what she’d claimed was true.

Utterly, utterly shite. Can’t see her making it to the end of the year.

She'll make it because nobody else wants the job.

Who wants to play Pass the Parcel when the parcel's ticking?

Jesus fucking Christ. Two for the price of one. Not just Gaza but Ukraine as well. What's she trying to do here? Get George Galloway into Downing Street? Get a load more nutters to attack Keir Starmer's house?

British opposition leader Kemi Badenoch has defended Israel’s continuing war on Gaza, describing it as a "proxy war on behalf of the UK."

In an interview with Sky News' Trevor Phillips on Sunday, Badenoch, now leading the Conservative Party, claimed that Israel’s war on Gaza aligns with Britain’s national interest, comparing it to "Ukraine [fighting] on behalf of Western Europe against Russia."

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/isra ... i-bedenoch

This is somebody who sits around on Twitter all day. That she isn't backing Starmer, Macron and Carney is incredible. Internet troll as leader of the Opposition.