By Youngian
#110164
If Nelson is right, Marmite Farage is even more loathed by those who despised him in 2016. Reform swept the board in Wigan but on 46% of the vote. That's not that impressive for an area that was 70% Leave. Can't see Farage has gained any new electoral demographics when you drill down.
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By Youngian
#110169
What new demographics (beyond the Boris/Nigel 2019 Brexit coalition) has Farage picked up in this election?
By davidjay
#110170
Youngian wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 12:41 pm What new demographics (beyond the Boris/Nigel 2019 Brexit coalition) has Farage picked up in this election?
The None of the Aboves who used to vote Lib Dem, together with a few who believe that because their lives didn't improve the day after Starmer won, they'll try someone different.
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By Spoonman
#110171
I did say at the time of winning the general election that the first thing Starmer should have said was that it was going to take more than one term to try and reverse 14 years of Tory mismanagement - the fact that he didn't IMO has hindered him from a media & electorate that expects instant gratification & backstage drama.
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By Youngian
#110181
davidjay wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 2:14 pm
Youngian wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 12:41 pm What new demographics (beyond the Boris/Nigel 2019 Brexit coalition) has Farage picked up in this election?
The None of the Aboves who used to vote Lib Dem, together with a few who believe that because their lives didn't improve the day after Starmer won, they'll try someone different.
They're not making up for dead people. Farage isn't a young fresh faced anti-politics candidate.
Behind the impressive tally of Reform’s gains – likely to end up well over 1,000 – Nigel Farage should be privately worried.

In last year’s local elections Reform won 41 per cent of all seats contested across England. On the basis of the overnight figures, this year’s tally is around 33 per cent.

“If there were no polls, and there had been no elections last year, this year’s figure would be astonishing. But we do have the record of recent polls and elections, and it seems clear that Reform has peaked. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... ur-406003/
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By Tubby Isaacs
#110185
Youngian wrote: Sat May 09, 2026 11:04 am If Nelson is right, Marmite Farage is even more loathed by those who despised him in 2016. Reform swept the board in Wigan but on 46% of the vote. That's not that impressive for an area that was 70% Leave. Can't see Farage has gained any new electoral demographics when you drill down.
This is my view, though I think he'll win Wigan and quite a few more places where they've done well. I think, despite what is often said, FPTP will actually help keep him out of government (assuming he even wants to be in it, which I'm not actually convinced he does).
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By Tubby Isaacs
#110186
What a heartwarming tale. How fresh!
‘I’ll talk to work on Monday’: what happens when a ‘paper candidate’ actually wins
Tyrone Scott, who didn’t think he had a hope in the election, wants to help the Greens rebuild ‘community cohesion’ in Hackney
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -candidate
Four years ago, he was tantalisingly close to power, losing his race to become a Hackney councillor by 27 votes. “It was quite devastating at the time,” the 34-year-old said. Months later, he ran for deputy leader of the party but came second to Zack Polanski, who has since become leader.
So he's actually a very well established politician then? I mean, congratulations and all that, but of all the people who won upset victories, he doesn't seem particularly remarkable. Does he know someone at The Guardian?

Hackney is where Stamford Hill is. I wonder how the residents feel about a lot more prominence for "anti-Zionist" Green Party politicians.
By davidjay
#110197
To steal an idea from elsewhere, on Monday morning Big Tel, whose previous political experience consists of leaning on the bar of his flat-roofed local telling anyone who'll listen that the Navy should sink the dinghies and benefits should be abolished, will find himself in charge of a £50 million social services budget.
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By Youngian
#110202
Which Reform council was it that pleaded with previous Tory incumbents for their help as they hadn't clue what to do?
Tricky one that, give them hand for the good of the community or let them swing? A party of know it alls needing help, how ironic.
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