#91092
I’m pleased with this result, though it was nearly too close for comfort.

Time again, I think, for some words of praise for Kim Leadbeater, whose bravery, dignity, drive, sheer hard work, and fortitude in taking this bill forward have been admirable. Kim’s sister would be very proud of her.
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#91095
Abernathy wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:45 pm I’m pleased with this result, though it was nearly too close for comfort.

Time again, I think, for some words of praise for Kim Leadbeater, whose bravery, dignity, drive, sheer hard work, and fortitude in taking this bill forward have been admirable. Kim’s sister would be very proud of her.
Absolutely, I don't know how she can bear to be in the same room as some of the bullshitters on her own side.

I thought it would be closer, and I think that's a decent majority. The operation to pretend it crawled over the line will doubtless be underway already. "Big changes shouldn't be made on the basis of a narrow majority" and all that. That's a classic fallacy treating the current position as somehow special.
#91097
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:46 pm Tice and the Runcorn winner both voted for, to their credit. Farage, Anderson and the girlfriend puncher all against. Rupert Lowe against.

There may be some wing nut welfare at stake.
On the one hand it's dead hand of the state, heartless bureaucrats, lovely old grannies and so on.

On the other, nobody tells me what to do, and my personal choice.

Both have appeal to their party members.
#91099
I see the Guardian is reporting that the cabinet is 'deeply split'.

i.e. they voted with their consciences, some for and some against...

The Guardian's sniping negativism is getting me down. That and the fucking helicopters.
#91101
Has Starmer imposed whip on Cabinet? Questions as all ministers back controversial bill.

Yeah, it's rather shit.
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